From gritton@byu.edu Wed Jun 3 09:41:43 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2389 news.groups:52031 comp.org.eff.talk:8266 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.org.eff.talk Path: uunet!bounce-back From: gritton@byu.edu (Jamie Gritton) Subject: RFD: comp.org.eff.news moderated and comp.org.eff.talk Message-ID: <1992Jun2.192013.21629@uunet.uu.net> Followup-To: news.groups Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net (David C Lawrence) Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA Date: Tue, 2 Jun 1992 19:20:13 GMT Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net Lines: 27 This is a Request For Discussion for the Usenet groups comp.org.eff.news and comp.org.eff.talk. Both groups already exist as part of the "inet" distribution, and are well established. This RFD is to make them part of the official Usenet hierarchy. The nature of the groups would not change, only their distribution. Charters of the groups follow: -- comp.org.eff.news News from the Electronic Frontier Foundation. (Moderated) Submission address: effnews@eff.org comp.org.eff.news is the primary distribution medium of the Electronic Frontier Foundation's online newsletter, _EFFector Online_, as well as occasional short informational postings about upcoming EFF events, gatherings, or appearances. -- comp.org.eff.talk Discussions about the electronic frontier & related issues. comp.org.eff.talk is an unmoderated discussion group for issues relating to the electronic frontier and the Electronic Frontier Foundation. Topics have included online censorship, the legal rights and responsibilities of BBS system operators, and problems with differing national laws being applied to international networks. -- James Gritton - gritton@byu.edu - I disclaim From gritton@byu.edu Mon Jul 6 17:40:56 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2493 news.groups:53742 comp.org.eff.talk:8936 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.org.eff.talk Path: uunet!bounce-back From: gritton@byu.edu (Jamie Gritton) Subject: CFV: comp.org.eff.news moderated and comp.org.eff.talk Message-ID: <1992Jul6.181530.27985@uunet.uu.net> Followup-To: poster Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net (David C Lawrence) Reply-To: eff-vote@byu.edu Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA Date: Mon, 6 Jul 1992 18:15:30 GMT Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net Lines: 43 This is the Call For Votes for the Usenet groups comp.org.eff.news and comp.org.eff.talk. Both groups already exist as part of the "inet" distribution, and are well established. This vote is to make them part of the official Usenet hierarchy. The nature of the groups would not change, only their distribution. To vote, send mail to eff-vote@byu.edu, with the body of the message containing lines of the form: I vote Yes/No on comp.org.eff.news. I vote Yes/No on comp.org.eff.talk. - If a group is not named in the message, it will be counted as an abstention. - If duplicate votes are received from the same address, the most recent vote will be counted. - The voting period will end on Monday, 29 July 1992. - If you have any problems with the vote, send mail to me (gritton@byu.edu). (I will be gone July 4-12, but will read all my mail on the 13th.) Charters of the groups follow: -- comp.org.eff.news News from the Electronic Frontier Foundation. (Moderated) Submission address: effnews@eff.org comp.org.eff.news is the primary distribution medium of the Electronic Frontier Foundation's online newsletter, _EFFector Online_, as well as occasional short informational postings about upcoming EFF events, gatherings, or appearances. -- comp.org.eff.talk Discussions about the electronic frontier & related issues. comp.org.eff.talk is an unmoderated discussion group for issues relating to the electronic frontier and the Electronic Frontier Foundation. Topics have included online censorship, the legal rights and responsibilities of BBS system operators, and problems with differing national laws being applied to international networks. -- James Gritton - gritton@byu.edu - I disclaim From gritton@byu.edu Thu Jul 16 12:01:15 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2532 news.groups:54260 comp.org.eff.talk:9050 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.org.eff.talk Path: uunet!bounce-back From: gritton@byu.edu (Jamie Gritton) Subject: 2nd CFV: comp.org.eff.news moderated and comp.org.eff.talk Message-ID: <1992Jul15.222245.19019@uunet.uu.net> Followup-To: poster Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net (David C Lawrence) Reply-To: eff-vote@byu.edu Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA Date: Wed, 15 Jul 1992 22:22:45 GMT Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net Lines: 168 This is the Second Call For Votes for the Usenet groups comp.org.eff.news and comp.org.eff.talk. Both groups already exist as part of the "inet" distribution, and are well established. This vote is to make them part of the official Usenet hierarchy. The nature of the groups would not change, only their distribution. To vote, send mail to eff-vote@byu.edu, with the body of the message containing lines of the form: I vote Yes/No on comp.org.eff.news. I vote Yes/No on comp.org.eff.talk. * jamie@tasman.tivoli.com: My vote-taking program was broken when you voted. Please re-cast your vote. - If a group is not named in the message, it will be counted as an abstention. - If duplicate votes are received from the same address, the most recent vote will be counted. - The voting period will end on Wednesday, 29 July 1992. - If you have any problems with the vote, send mail to me (gritton@byu.edu). Charters of the groups follow: -- comp.org.eff.news News from the Electronic Frontier Foundation. (Moderated) Submission address: effnews@eff.org comp.org.eff.news is the primary distribution medium of the Electronic Frontier Foundation's online newsletter, _EFFector Online_, as well as occasional short informational postings about upcoming EFF events, gatherings, or appearances. -- comp.org.eff.talk Discussions about the electronic frontier & related issues. comp.org.eff.talk is an unmoderated discussion group for issues relating to the electronic frontier and the Electronic Frontier Foundation. Topics have included online censorship, the legal rights and responsibilities of BBS system operators, and problems with differing national laws being applied to international networks. -- Here's the list of votes received so far: Alan Coopersmith Alan Dudley B.J. 07-Jul-1992 1524 Barry Margolin Brendan Kehoe Christopher Davis Clint Ruoho Craig Neidorf Dan_Jacobson@ATT.COM Daniel J. Weitzner Dave Farber Dave Murphy Ellen K. Seebacher Eric Hunt Erik Sowa Floyd Davidson Gerard Van der Leun Grant_Crawford@quest.ucs.ualberta.ca (Grant Crawford) Hae-young Rieh Hwang Helen Trillian Rose Jack.Winslade@ivgate.omahug.org (Jack Winslade) James R. Ault Jay Maynard Jim Lick John G Dobnick Juergen Christoffel Jyrki Kuoppala Keith Morgan Loren J. Miller Martin F. Terman Matt Hucke Michael Orr Mike Fessler Mike Godwin Nigel.Allen@lambada.oit.unc.edu Ofer Inbar Richard P. Muller Rita Marie Rouvalis Saul Tannenbaum Scott@univel.COM (Scott Harrison) Sendhil Revuluri StarWatcher@uiuc.edu Steve Wertheimer Sven Heinicke Ted Lemon Zach Kessin a_rubin@dsg4.dse.beckman.com admin@methan.chemie.fu-berlin.de agsxv@cncsiris.inre.asu.edu (Sridhar Venkataraman) alanb@vexcel.com (Alan Baxter) analyst@netcom.com (David Sternlight) andy@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Andrew Hackard) andy@homebase.vistachrome.com (Andy Finkenstadt) aralph@cix.compulink.co.uk arielle@taronga.com (Stephanie da Silva) atkinson@madmaxx.itd.nrl.navy.mil (Randall Atkinson) aurs01!aurw9c!benningf@mcnc.org barlow@icecube.pinedale.wy.us (John Perry Barlow) blake@pro-party.cts.com (Blake Farenthold) ceg@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Chris Galas) chip@chinacat.unicom.com (Chip Rosenthal) chisnall@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz (The Technicolour Throw-up) coleman@bi.twinsun.com (Mike Coleman) creare!creare.com!kwg@Dartmouth.EDU (Kent Goeking) david@ruc.dk (David Stodolsky) duggan@cc.gatech.edu (Richard A. Duggan) eck@saul.cis.upenn.edu (Brian Eck) emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti) esther@eff.org gberigan@cse.unl.edu (Life...) gritton@oregon.et.byu.edu (Jamie Gritton) hirai@cc.swarthmore.edu (Eiji Hirai) howard@hal.com huff@MCCLB0.MED.NYU.EDU (Edward J. Huff) ian@airs.com (Ian Lance Taylor) jbuck@ohm.Berkeley.EDU (Joe Buck) jeffh@taurus.apple.com (Jeff Holcomb) jfritz@rdrc.rpi.edu jh@nbn.com (John Harkin) jhawk@panix.com (John Hawkinson) jra@bonito.wti.com (Jim Atkinson) jsblau@panix.com (Jonathan Blau) kc@netcom.com (Dameon D. Welch) lelam%kuwait@Sun.COM (Len E. Elam) lleonard@hayes.com malloy@nprdc.navy.mil (Sean Malloy) matwood%klages@cs.utah.edu mc/G=Brad/S=Hicks/OU=0205925@mhs.attmail.com michaelb@mars.cse.fau.edu (Michael Rogero Brown) mlw@iscnvx.lmsc.lockheed.com (Martha L. Wilson) news@wolves.Durham.NC.US (The Wolfe of the Den) oplinger@ra.crd.ge.com (Brian Oplinger) peterson@csc.csc.ti.com pierre@kaboom.PRPA.Philips.COM (Pierre Uszynski) rick@CRICK.SSCTR.bcm.tmc.edu (Richard H. Miller) rogue@cellar.org romero@stat.tamu.edu (Ron Romero) rsnyder@fergie.dnet.ge.com (Bob Snyder) russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Russell Schulz) rv@cs.brown.edu (rodrigo vanegas) sethb@fid.Morgan.COM (Seth Breidbart) shrdlu@willow.sdd.trw.com (Lynda L. True) simona@panix.com (Simona Nass) slick@netcom.com (Martin Veneroso) smith@ncoast.org (Phil Smith) spm2d@ash.cs.Virginia.EDU srogers@tad.eds.com (Steve Rogers) sst@Athena.MIT.EDU ssteele@eff.org swildner@channelz.GUN.de tale@uunet.uu.net tijc02!pjs269@uunet.UU.NET (Paul Schmidt) til!erik@uunet.UU.NET (Erik Horstkotte) tinsel@uiuc.edu tom_limoncelli@Warren.MENTORG.COM tsdavies@mailbox.syr.edu (Real life? Ha!) turrell@violet.berkeley.edu (David Turrell) walsh@cs.umass.edu warnold@nomad.urich.edu (William W. Arnold) ygoland@SEAS.UCLA.EDU (The Jester) From gritton@byu.edu Thu Jul 30 16:50:03 1992 Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:2586 news.groups:54853 comp.org.eff.talk:9458 Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.org.eff.talk Path: uunet!bounce-back From: gritton@byu.edu (Jamie Gritton) Subject: RESULT: comp.org.eff.news and comp.org.eff.talk pass 181: 0 and 177:2 Message-ID: <1992Jul30.202508.5954@uunet.uu.net> Followup-To: news.groups Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net (David C Lawrence) Organization: Brigham Young University, Provo UT USA Date: Thu, 30 Jul 1992 20:25:08 GMT Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net Lines: 222 comp.org.eff.news passed without a single "no" vote and 181 "yes" votes. Unfortunately, two people decided to vote against comp.org.eff.talk, but it still passed 177:2. These groups will be created (for sites that don't recieve them already) following the five day waiting period, unless there are *many* inaccuracies with the vote. Here are the charters of the groups: -- comp.org.eff.news News from the Electronic Frontier Foundation. (Moderated) Submission address: effnews@eff.org comp.org.eff.news is the primary distribution medium of the Electronic Frontier Foundation's online newsletter, _EFFector Online_, as well as occasional short informational postings about upcoming EFF events, gatherings, or appearances. -- comp.org.eff.talk Discussions about the electronic frontier & related issues. comp.org.eff.talk is an unmoderated discussion group for issues relating to the electronic frontier and the Electronic Frontier Foundation. Topics have included online censorship, the legal rights and responsibilities of BBS system operators, and problems with differing national laws being applied to international networks. -- Here are the votes received for comp.org.eff.news and comp.org.eff.talk respectively: AA atkinson@madmaxx.itd.nrl.navy.mil (Randall Atkinson) AA jamie@tasman.tivoli.com AN baustin!root@uunet.uu.net AY "Paul M. Mullins" YA Grant_Crawford@quest.ucs.ualberta.ca (Grant Crawford) YA oplinger@ra.crd.ge.com (Brian Oplinger) YA swildner@channelz.GUN.de YA turrell@violet.berkeley.edu (David Turrell) YN Lyndon Nerenberg YY "B.J. 07-Jul-1992 1524" YY "Daniel J. Weitzner" YY "Ellen K. Seebacher" YY "Eric A. Litman" YY "James R. Ault" YY "Loren J. Miller" YY "Marshall G. Flax" YY "Martin F. Terman" YY "Richard P. Muller" YY "William A. Steele" YY Alan Coopersmith YY Alan Dudley YY Alan P Barrett YY Ashok Gupta YY Barry Margolin YY Bill Bogstad YY Brendan Kehoe YY Christopher Davis YY Cliff Stoll YY Clint Ruoho YY Craig Neidorf YY Dan_Jacobson@ATT.COM YY Dana WATANABE YY Dave Farber YY Dave Murphy YY David Aston YY Duane.Day@Corp.Sun.COM (Duane Day) YY Eric Hunt YY Erik Sowa YY Floyd Davidson YY George William Herbert YY Gerard Van der Leun YY Gerben 'P' Vos YY Hae-young Rieh Hwang YY Helen Trillian Rose YY Jack.Winslade@ivgate.omahug.org (Jack Winslade) YY Jay Maynard YY Jim Lick YY Joel B Levin YY John G Dobnick YY John Schultz YY Jonathan M Lennox YY Juergen Christoffel YY Junger@samsara.law.cwru.edu (Peter D. Junger) YY Jyrki Kuoppala YY Kathryn Henniss YY Keith Morgan YY Lars H}kedal YY Lee Thompson-Herbert YY MSKALA%ESRIN.BITNET@vm.gmd.de YY Marco S Hyman YY Martha_Wilson@qm.is.lmsc.lockheed.com YY Matt Hucke YY Maurice Forrester YY Michael Orr YY Mike Fessler YY Mike Godwin YY Nigel.Allen@lambada.oit.unc.edu YY Ofer Inbar YY Oliver Schoett YY Rita Marie Rouvalis YY Robert S Cowan YY STEVEN BOWER YY Saul Tannenbaum YY Scott@univel.COM (Scott Harrison) YY Sendhil Revuluri YY StarWatcher@uiuc.edu YY Steve Wertheimer YY Sven Heinicke YY Ted Lemon YY Tim Myers YY Tom Yates YY UHAH013@VAX.RHBNC.AC.UK YY Zach Kessin YY a_rubin@dsg4.dse.beckman.com YY agsxv@cncsiris.inre.asu.edu (Sridhar Venkataraman) YY alanb@vexcel.com (Alan Baxter) YY amdcad!osc!jgk@uunet.UU.NET (Joe Keane) YY analyst@netcom.com (David Sternlight) YY andy@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu (Andrew Hackard) YY andy@homebase.vistachrome.com (Andy Finkenstadt) YY aralph@cix.compulink.co.uk YY arielle@taronga.com (Stephanie da Silva) YY aurs01!aurw9c!benningf@mcnc.org YY awestrop@nyx.cs.du.edu (Alan Westrope) YY b-gross@uiuc.edu YY balog@bandit.psc.edu YY barlow@icecube.pinedale.wy.us (John Perry Barlow) YY bhv@areaplg2.corp.mot.com (Bronis Vidugiris) YY bigelow@cs.unr.edu (Robert Bigelow) YY blake@pro-party.cts.com (Blake Farenthold) YY ceg@pnet51.orb.mn.org (Chris Galas) YY charest@ai-cyclops.Jpl.Nasa.Gov (Len Charest) YY chip@chinacat.unicom.com (Chip Rosenthal) YY chisnall@cosc.canterbury.ac.nz (The Technicolour Throw-up) YY coganman@ocf.Berkeley.EDU (Andrei Cogan) YY coleman@bi.twinsun.com (Mike Coleman) YY creare!creare.com!kwg@Dartmouth.EDU (Kent Goeking) YY david@ruc.dk (David Stodolsky) YY dpassage@postgres.berkeley.edu YY duggan@cc.gatech.edu (Richard A. Duggan) YY eck@saul.cis.upenn.edu (Brian Eck) YY emv@msen.com (Edward Vielmetti) YY esther@eff.org YY farbrent!ajr3@ms.uky.edu YY fredbox!system@uunet.UU.NET (George W. Hayduke) YY gberigan@cse.unl.edu (Life...) YY greg@gallifrey.ucs.uoknor.edu (Greg Trotter) YY gritton@oregon.et.byu.edu (Jamie Gritton) YY hatzm%9.21.dnet@gte.com (WIN 3.1, ahhhh much better!) YY heinay@groucho.chemie.fu-berlin.de (Vera Heinau) YY hirai@cc.swarthmore.edu (Eiji Hirai) YY howard@hal.com YY huff@MCCLB0.MED.NYU.EDU (Edward J. Huff) YY ian@airs.com (Ian Lance Taylor) YY infoage!bradcox@hsi.hsi.com (Brad Cox) YY jamie@vax.ftp.com (Jamie O'Keefe) YY jbuck@ohm.Berkeley.EDU (Joe Buck) YY jeffh@taurus.apple.com (Jeff Holcomb) YY jfritz@rdrc.rpi.edu YY jh@cadre.com (Joe Hartley) YY jh@nbn.com (John Harkin) YY jhawk@panix.com (John Hawkinson) YY john@iastate.edu YY jonm@microsoft.com YY jp@darkstar.com (J Petersen) YY jra@bonito.wti.com (Jim Atkinson) YY jsblau@panix.com (Jonathan Blau) YY kc@netcom.com (Dameon D. Welch) YY kmc@netcom.com (Kevin McCarty) YY kragh@cyberia.mi.org (Kragh J. Hertel) YY lelam%kuwait@Sun.COM (Len E. Elam) YY lleonard@hayes.com YY malloy@nprdc.navy.mil (Sean Malloy) YY matwood%klages@cs.utah.edu YY mc/G=Brad/S=Hicks/OU=0205925@mhs.attmail.com YY mcb@presto.ig.com (Michael C. Berch) YY michaelb@mars.cse.fau.edu (Michael Rogero Brown) YY mike@uel.com YY muir@CSI.COM (David Muir Sharnoff) YY news@wolves.Durham.NC.US (The Wolfe of the Den) YY news_for@ae.ge.com YY peterson@csc.csc.ti.com YY phil sutherland YY pierre@kaboom.PRPA.Philips.COM (Pierre Uszynski) YY pmcgw!personal-media.co.jp!ishikawa@uunet.UU.NET YY pshuang@Athena.MIT.EDU YY rick@CRICK.SSCTR.bcm.tmc.edu (Richard H. Miller) YY rogue@cellar.org YY romero@stat.tamu.edu (Ron Romero) YY rsnyder@fergie.dnet.ge.com (Bob Snyder) YY ruman@meroot.eng.uci.edu (ruman) YY russell@alpha3.ersys.edmonton.ab.ca (Russell Schulz) YY rv@cs.brown.edu (rodrigo vanegas) YY sethb@fid.Morgan.COM (Seth Breidbart) YY shrdlu@willow.sdd.trw.com (Lynda L. True) YY simona@panix.com (Simona Nass) YY slick@netcom.com (Martin Veneroso) YY smith@ncoast.org (Phil Smith) YY sorensen@spl.ecse.rpi.edu (Jeffrey Sorensen) YY spm2d@ash.cs.Virginia.EDU YY srogers@tad.eds.com (Steve Rogers) YY sst@Athena.MIT.EDU YY ssteele@eff.org YY tale@uunet.uu.net YY tar@math.ksu.edu (Tim Ramsey) YY tijc02!pjs269@uunet.UU.NET (Paul Schmidt) YY til!erik@uunet.UU.NET (Erik Horstkotte) YY tinsel@uiuc.edu YY tom_limoncelli@Warren.MENTORG.COM YY tsdavies@mailbox.syr.edu (Real life? Ha!) YY ulmo@netcom.com (Brad Allen) YY walsh@cs.umass.edu YY warnold@nomad.urich.edu (William W. Arnold) YY weber@rhrk.uni-kl.de YY ygoland@SEAS.UCLA.EDU (The Jester)