From bfahle@ForeLogic.com Thu Aug 6 15:15:04 1998 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: "Bill Fahle" Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.software.year-2000,alt.talk.year2000,uk.tech.y2k Subject: RFD: comp.software.year-2000.tech Followup-To: news.groups Message-ID: <902441375.26443@isc.org> Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org Archive-Name: comp.software.year-2000.tech Date: Thu, 06 Aug 1998 22:09:35 GMT Lines: 75 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:10523 news.groups:293432 comp.software.year-2000:78627 REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) unmoderated group comp.software.year-2000.tech This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of a world-wide unmoderated Usenet newsgroup comp.software.year-2000.tech. This is not a Call for Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time. Procedural details are below. Newsgroup line: comp.software.year-2000.tech Technical discussion of y2k & related problems. RATIONALE: comp.software.year-2000.tech The newsgroup comp.software.year-2000 has, virtually since its inception, been overrun by predictions and speculation about what might or might not happen to the infrastructure and to society in general when/if remediation of the year-2000 problem fails. This speculation tends to generate on the order of 300 messages per day; clearly showing the need for such a group. However, the original purpose of the group is not being served well, and so this is technically a recommendation for a split. The new group would provide a forum for technical help for remediators of year-2000 problems, which is needed now more than ever. While it might be raised that these ng's will have limited life, there are a class of related problems that will continue to be discussed well into next century. Current deja-news stats: comp.software.year-2000 - 19041 messages in standard archive of these, 5546 contained one of the following words: (Doom or butthead or collapse or death or denial or pollyanna or stock or survival or clinton or asia or gold or water or food) uk.tech.y2k - 798 messages in standard archive CHARTER: comp.software.year-2000.tech Group for technical discussion of all aspects and possible solutions of the Year 2000 problem, especially in relation to Computers and all electronic/ electrical equipment utilizing date related IC's. The group will permit discussion of the Euro/EMU, y2.038k, DOW10k, and other time-bound and/or pervasive computer problems. No advertising allowed, Off topic subjects to include job announcements and speculation about possible outcomes or effects of incomplete remediation (positive or negative). Binary postings are expressly forbidden. All postings to be in plain text. The newsgroup will not be moderated, however, off topic postings, including unwelcome ads, will be warned off/reported to their postmaster/ISP. END CHARTER. PROCEDURE: This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes. In this phase of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroups should be raised and resolved. The discussion period will continue for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the first RFD for this proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups), after which a Call For Votes (CFV) may be posted by a neutral vote taker if the discussion warrants it. Please do not attempt to vote until this happens. All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups. This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup creation guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "How to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal". Please refer to these documents (available in news.announce.newgroups) if you have any questions about the process. DISTRIBUTION: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.software.year-2000, alt.talk.year2000,uk.tech.y2k Proponent: Bill Fahle From bfahle@forelogic.com Wed Aug 26 00:15:05 1998 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: Bill Fahle Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,comp.software.year-2000,alt.talk.year2000,uk.tech.y2k Subject: 2nd RFD: comp.software.year-2000.tech moderated Followup-To: news.groups Message-ID: <904115307.21087@isc.org> Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org Archive-Name: comp.software.year-2000.tech Date: Wed, 26 Aug 1998 07:08:27 GMT Lines: 110 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:10557 news.groups:294530 comp.software.year-2000:86017 REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) moderated group comp.software.year-2000.tech This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of a new moderated group comp.software.year-2000.tech. It is not a Call for Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time. Procedural details are below. CHANGES from previous RFD: The proposal is now for a moderated group instead of unmoderated, in response to virtually all discussion of the previous RFD. Current thinking is to use very lite moderation until it is obviously not working. Also, the charter has been modified to look much more like the csy2k charter. Newsgroup line: comp.software.year-2000.tech Fixing date-related bugs. (Moderated) RATIONALE: comp.software.year-2000.tech The newsgroup comp.software.year-2000 has, virtually since its inception, been overrun by predictions and speculation about what might or might not happen to the infrastructure and to society in general when/if remediation of the year-2000 problem fails. This speculation tends to generate on the order of 300 messages per day; clearly showing the need for such a group. However, the original purpose of the group is not being served well, and so this is technically a recommendation for a split. The new group would provide a forum for technical help for remediators of year-2000 problems, which is needed now more than ever. While it might be raised that these ng's will have limited life, there are a class of related problems that will continue to be discussed well into next century. Current deja-news stats: comp.software.year-2000 - 19041 messages in standard archive of these, 5546 contained one of the following words: (Doom or butthead or collapse or death or denial or pollyanna or stock or survival or clinton or asia or gold or water or food) uk.tech.y2k - 798 messages in standard archive CHARTER: comp.software.year-2000.tech This newsgroup will be open to technical aspects of the year 2000 century conversion, including: * Technical discussions - year 2000 problems and solutions on various computer systems and networks. "What we're doing in our project"; suggestions on test setups for specific systems. Programming solutions. * Project-management issues - suggested phases in year 2000 projects; how to get projects budgeted; experiences with "offshore consultants"; cost estimating; test strategies; contingency plans; checklists; expected staffing demands. * Software tools - for inventory and/or conversion of affected code. Rating of/experiences with specific tools. Pitfalls to watch out for. Pointers to relevant products and vendor documentation. Moderation policies: Language shall not be restricted to English. All posts shall be directly related to the subject of year 2000 compliance. Topics of a political, philosophical or religious nature shall not be posted in comp.software.year-2000.tech. No binary/HTML posts. Initially, we hope to keep the moderation lax, and allow most non-spam posts. END CHARTER. MODERATOR INFO: comp.software.year-2000.tech Moderator: Kevin Martin Kevin has been active in Usenet since 1988. He is the FAQ maintainer for an alt group currently, and has a firm understanding of moderator issues. END MODERATOR INFO. PROCEDURE: This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes. In this phase of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroups should be raised and resolved. The discussion period will continue for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the first RFD for this proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups), after which a Call For Votes (CFV) will be posted by a neutral vote taker. Please do not attempt to vote until this happens. All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups. This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup creation guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "How to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal". Please refer to these documents (available in news.announce.newgroups) if you have any questions about the process. DISTRIBUTION: This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups news.groups comp.software.year-2000 alt.talk.year2000 uk.tech.y2k Proponent: Bill Fahle From dave@dogwood.com Mon Sep 7 17:15:10 1998 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: Dave Cornejo Reply-To: vote@dogwood.com Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.talk.year2000,comp.software.year-2000,gov.topic.info.systems.year2000,uk.tech.y2k Subject: CFV: comp.software.year-2000.tech moderated Followup-To: poster Message-ID: <905213201.21063@isc.org> Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org Expires: 30 Sep 1998 00:00:00 GMT Archive-Name: comp.software.year-2000.tech Date: Tue, 08 Sep 1998 00:06:41 GMT Lines: 124 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:10576 news.groups:295486 comp.software.year-2000:90506 FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) moderated group comp.software.year-2000.tech Newsgroups line: comp.software.year-2000.tech Remediation of Y2K, similar bugs. (Moderated) Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 29 Sep 1998. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent. Proponent: Bill Fahle Votetaker: Dave Cornejo RATIONALE: comp.software.year-2000.tech The newsgroup comp.software.year-2000 has, virtually since its inception, been overrun by predictions and speculation about what might or might not happen to the infrastructure and to society in general when/if remediation of the year-2000 problem fails. This speculation tends to generate on the order of 300 messages per day; clearly showing the need for such a group. However, the original purpose of the group is not being served well, and so this is technically a recommendation for a split. The new group would provide a forum for technical help for remediators of year-2000 problems, which is needed now more than ever. While it might be raised that these ng's will have limited life, there are a class of related problems that will continue to be discussed well into next century. CHARTER: comp.software.year-2000.tech This newsgroup will be open to technical aspects of the year 2000 conversion including: * Technical discussions - year 2000 problems and solutions on various computer systems and networks. "What we're doing in our project"; suggestions on test setups for specific systems. Programming solutions. * Project-management issues - suggested phases in year 2000 projects; how to get projects budgeted; cost estimating; test strategies; contingency plans; checklists; expected staffing demands. * Software tools - for inventory and/or conversion of affected code. Rating of/experiences with specific tools. Pitfalls to watch out for. Pointers to relevant products and vendor documentation. Moderation policies: Language shall not be restricted to English. All posts shall be directly related to the subject of year 2000 compliance. Topics of a political, philosophical or religious nature shall not be posted in comp.software.year-2000.tech. No job postings. No binary/HTML posts. We hope to keep the moderation light, and allow most non-spam posts. Single, short announcements of Y2k products (either new or significant upgrades) are acceptable, and should refer to Web pages for details. END CHARTER. MODERATOR INFO: comp.software.year-2000.tech Moderator: Kevin Martin Administrative contact address: csy2kt-admin@stump.algebra.com Article submission address: csy2kt@stump.algebra.com END MODERATOR INFO. HOW TO VOTE: Follow these instructions *exactly*! Votes are counted by computer. You should send E-MAIL (posts to a newsgroup are invalid) to: vote@dogwood.com Please do not assume that just replying to this message will work. Check the address before you mail your vote. Your mail message should contain one and only one of the following vote statements: I vote YES on comp.software.year-2000.tech I vote NO on comp.software.year-2000.tech Voter name: If your mail software does not indicate your real name (for example, AOL does not), include _exactly_ the statement above on a _separate_ line and add your name after the colon. Having your name in your signature line is NOT enough! Do NOT join the lines together or remove the words "Voter name"! You may also vote ABSTAIN (which records an empty vote) or CANCEL (which removes any earlier votes). ABSTAIN does not affect the final vote count in any way but is listed, whereas CANCEL is not. IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES: Standard Guidelines for voting apply. One vote per person, one account per voter. Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker. Anonymous, forwarded or proxy votes are not valid. Votes mailed by WWW/HTML/CGI forms are considered to be anonymous votes. Votes from non-existent email addresses are not valid. Vote counting is automated. Failure to follow these directions may mean that your vote does not get counted. If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three days contact the votetaker about the problem. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly. Duplicate votes are resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote. Addresses, names and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results post. The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of persons who would read a proposed newsgroup. Soliciting votes from disinterested parties defeats this purpose. Please do not distribute this CFV. If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted to news.announce.newgroups. Distributing pre-marked or otherwise edited copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud. When in doubt, ask the votetaker. -- Voting question & problems: Dave Cornejo Voting address: vote@dogwood.com From dave@dogwood.com Fri Sep 18 09:30:11 1998 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: Dave Cornejo Reply-To: vote@dogwood.com Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.talk.year2000,comp.software.year-2000,gov.topic.info.systems.year2000,uk.tech.y2k Subject: 2nd CFV: comp.software.year-2000.tech moderated Followup-To: poster Message-ID: <906126280.15729@isc.org> References: <905213201.21063@isc.org> Supersedes: <905213201.21063@isc.org> Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org Expires: 30 Sep 1998 00:00:00 GMT Archive-Name: comp.software.year-2000.tech Date: Fri, 18 Sep 1998 13:44:41 GMT Lines: 124 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:10587 news.groups:296476 comp.software.year-2000:93944 LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) moderated group comp.software.year-2000.tech Newsgroups line: comp.software.year-2000.tech Remediation of Y2K, similar bugs. (Moderated) Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 29 Sep 1998. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent. Proponent: Bill Fahle Votetaker: Dave Cornejo RATIONALE: comp.software.year-2000.tech The newsgroup comp.software.year-2000 has, virtually since its inception, been overrun by predictions and speculation about what might or might not happen to the infrastructure and to society in general when/if remediation of the year-2000 problem fails. This speculation tends to generate on the order of 300 messages per day; clearly showing the need for such a group. However, the original purpose of the group is not being served well, and so this is technically a recommendation for a split. The new group would provide a forum for technical help for remediators of year-2000 problems, which is needed now more than ever. While it might be raised that these ng's will have limited life, there are a class of related problems that will continue to be discussed well into next century. CHARTER: comp.software.year-2000.tech This newsgroup will be open to technical aspects of the year 2000 conversion including: * Technical discussions - year 2000 problems and solutions on various computer systems and networks. "What we're doing in our project"; suggestions on test setups for specific systems. Programming solutions. * Project-management issues - suggested phases in year 2000 projects; how to get projects budgeted; cost estimating; test strategies; contingency plans; checklists; expected staffing demands. * Software tools - for inventory and/or conversion of affected code. Rating of/experiences with specific tools. Pitfalls to watch out for. Pointers to relevant products and vendor documentation. Moderation policies: Language shall not be restricted to English. All posts shall be directly related to the subject of year 2000 compliance. Topics of a political, philosophical or religious nature shall not be posted in comp.software.year-2000.tech. No job postings. No binary/HTML posts. We hope to keep the moderation light, and allow most non-spam posts. Single, short announcements of Y2k products (either new or significant upgrades) are acceptable, and should refer to Web pages for details. END CHARTER. MODERATOR INFO: comp.software.year-2000.tech Moderator: Kevin Martin Administrative contact address: csy2kt-admin@stump.algebra.com Article submission address: csy2kt@stump.algebra.com END MODERATOR INFO. HOW TO VOTE: Follow these instructions *exactly*! Votes are counted by computer. You should send E-MAIL (posts to a newsgroup are invalid) to: vote@dogwood.com Please do not assume that just replying to this message will work. Check the address before you mail your vote. Your mail message should contain one and only one of the following vote statements: I vote YES on comp.software.year-2000.tech I vote NO on comp.software.year-2000.tech Voter name: If your mail software does not indicate your real name (for example, AOL does not), include _exactly_ the statement above on a _separate_ line and add your name after the colon. Having your name in your signature line is NOT enough! Do NOT join the lines together or remove the words "Voter name"! You may also vote ABSTAIN (which records an empty vote) or CANCEL (which removes any earlier votes). ABSTAIN does not affect the final vote count in any way but is listed, whereas CANCEL is not. IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES: Standard Guidelines for voting apply. One vote per person, one account per voter. Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker. Anonymous, forwarded or proxy votes are not valid. Votes mailed by WWW/HTML/CGI forms are considered to be anonymous votes. Votes from non-existent email addresses are not valid. Vote counting is automated. Failure to follow these directions may mean that your vote does not get counted. If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three days contact the votetaker about the problem. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly. Duplicate votes are resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote. Addresses, names and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results post. The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of persons who would read a proposed newsgroup. Soliciting votes from disinterested parties defeats this purpose. Please do not distribute this CFV. If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted to news.announce.newgroups. Distributing pre-marked or otherwise edited copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud. When in doubt, ask the votetaker. -- Voting question & problems: Dave Cornejo Voting address: vote@dogwood.com From dave@dogwood.com Mon Oct 5 07:15:16 1998 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: Dave Cornejo Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.talk.year2000,comp.software.year-2000,gov.topic.info.systems.year2000,uk.tech.y2k Subject: RESULT: comp.software.year-2000.tech moderated passes 241:14 Followup-To: news.groups Message-ID: <907595640.29747@isc.org> References: <905213201.21063@isc.org> <906126280.15729@isc.org> Supersedes: <906126280.15729@isc.org> Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org Archive-Name: comp.software.year-2000.tech Date: Mon, 05 Oct 1998 13:54:01 GMT Lines: 378 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:10609 news.groups:297495 comp.software.year-2000:100429 RESULT moderated group comp.software.year-2000.tech passes 241:14 There were 241 YES votes and 14 NO votes, for a total of 255 valid votes. There was 1 abstention and 8 invalid ballots. For a group to pass, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO) votes. There must also be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes. A five day discussion period follows this announcement. If no serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter. Newsgroups line: comp.software.year-2000.tech Remediation of Y2K, similar bugs. (Moderated) Voting closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 29 Sep 1998. This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent. Proponent: Bill Fahle Votetaker: Dave Cornejo RATIONALE: comp.software.year-2000.tech The newsgroup comp.software.year-2000 has, virtually since its inception, been overrun by predictions and speculation about what might or might not happen to the infrastructure and to society in general when/if remediation of the year-2000 problem fails. This speculation tends to generate on the order of 300 messages per day; clearly showing the need for such a group. However, the original purpose of the group is not being served well, and so this is technically a recommendation for a split. The new group would provide a forum for technical help for remediators of year-2000 problems, which is needed now more than ever. While it might be raised that these ng's will have limited life, there are a class of related problems that will continue to be discussed well into next century. CHARTER: comp.software.year-2000.tech This newsgroup will be open to technical aspects of the year 2000 conversion including: * Technical discussions - year 2000 problems and solutions on various computer systems and networks. "What we're doing in our project"; suggestions on test setups for specific systems. Programming solutions. * Project-management issues - suggested phases in year 2000 projects; how to get projects budgeted; cost estimating; test strategies; contingency plans; checklists; expected staffing demands. * Software tools - for inventory and/or conversion of affected code. Rating of/experiences with specific tools. Pitfalls to watch out for. Pointers to relevant products and vendor documentation. Moderation policies: Language shall not be restricted to English. All posts shall be directly related to the subject of year 2000 compliance. Topics of a political, philosophical or religious nature shall not be posted in comp.software.year-2000.tech. No job postings. No binary/HTML posts. We hope to keep the moderation light, and allow most non-spam posts. Single, short announcements of Y2k products (either new or significant upgrades) are acceptable, and should refer to Web pages for details. END CHARTER. MODERATOR INFO: comp.software.year-2000.tech Moderator: Kevin Martin Administrative contact address: csy2kt-admin@stump.algebra.com Article submission address: csy2kt@stump.algebra.com END MODERATOR INFO. comp.software.year-2000.tech Final Voter list Voted YES ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- David.Reen~colesmyer.com.au David H. Reen sacooper~ozemail.com.au Steven Cooper mb~doh.health.nsw.gov.au Michael Bednarek mtonkin~BarwonWater.Vic.Gov.AU Malcolm Tonkin dtroake~netspace.net.au Dennis Troake sbrel~pcug.org.au Sandy Brelsford eyckmans~imec.be Michel Eyckmans (MCE) nicvroom~innet.be Nicolaas Vroom BurgisR~aecl.ca Rob Burgis david~strider.pgfn.bc.ca David Lott robert.kelk~pwgsc.gc.ca Robert Kelk section8~netcom.ca Joe Zubkavich jmcgarry~uoguelph.ca James McGarry ebehr~shaw.wave.ca Eve M. Behr hslama~datacomm.ch Heribert Slama schmidgri~datacomm.ch Walter Schmid Reid.Ian~PMINTL.CH Ian Reid setha~plaza.ds.adp.com Seth D. 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Lowe bobwyman~yahoo.com Bob Wyman plass~hake-said.de Matthias Plass nils.kraft~frankfurt.netsurf.de Nils Kraft naddy~mips.rhein-neckar.de Christian Weisgerber Michael.Neef~neuroinformatik.ruhr-uni-bochum.de Michael Neef wolf.siberski~rwg.de vote~kholdan.snafu.de tobias erle Birgit.Fruechtl~t-online.de Birgit Fruechtl sleicht~t-online.de Stephan Leicht hsauer~marnie.teuto.de Henning Sauer chavey~beloit.edu Darrah Chavey heuring~crusher.cs.colorado.edu Vincent Heuring j_herlih~oz.plymouth.edu AxL neilc~wallaby.Stanford.EDU Neil Crellin rick~bcm.tmc.edu Richard H. Miller cks~hawkwind.utcs.toronto.edu Chris Siebenmann kisrael~eecs.tufts.edu Kirk Israel hermit~cats.UCSC.EDU William R. Ward escowles~gort.ucsd.edu Esme Cowles e-brewer~ux1.cso.uiuc.edu Ellen Brewer hughett~chaplin.med.upenn.edu Paul Hughett dmacks~sas.upenn.edu Daniel E. Macks rufinus~mbe.ece.wisc.edu J Rufinus seamas~kafka.med.yale.edu Se/amas O/ Scalaidhe jpatokal~iki.fi Jani Patokallio trossi~trixatronic.co.jyu.fi Timo Rossi ts~UWasa.Fi Timo Salmi patrick.collomb~edfgdf.fr COLLOMB kunne~ipno.in2p3.fr Ronald Kunne swor~loc.gov Sarah Worcester BSCHLESINGER~ndadsb-f.gsfc.nasa.gov Barry M. Schlesinger Gary.B.Standen~lerc.nasa.gov Gary B. Standen porter.clark~msfc.nasa.gov J. Porter Clark smetz~nsf.gov Shmuel (Seymour J.) Metz chand~idb.ie Cormac Hand jgc~iol.ie Joe Coleman dolphin~tuttocitta.it Dolph christopher.reynolds~alphanet.net Chris Reynolds Barticus~att.net Randall Bart jimabel~bellsouth.net Jim Abel tobin~blarg.net Clive Tobin elarse1~concentric.net Erik Larsen brenda~coolsite.net Brenda Carter jhlackie~crosslink.net John Lackie derek.reed~cwcom.net Derek Reed champ~access.digex.net Larry Champion camainc~dpc.net Charles R. Cherry prbaloun~earthlink.net James Baloun richardb~evansville.net Richard Brazelton Rebecca.Neason~foxinternet.net Steve Neason ellis~ftel.net Rick Ellis rharada~hooked.net Ryan A. Harada newsd~troubled.hypermart.net colin charles jay_moseley~ibm.net Jay Moseley kiyoinc~ibm.net Cory Hamasaki vantoen~ibm.net Gordon Van Toen delewis~inetone.net DeAlton Lewis ganymede~insync.net Greg R. Broderick cafzali~interport.net Cyrus Afzali aalehma~lava.net Arthur Alvin Lehmann III emgannon~mcn.net Marnie Gannon debic~mpinet.net Debi Cundiff dbahr~nvc.net Daryl Bahr eric~on-net.net Eric Roesinger wakelyn~pinn.net N. T. Wakelyn WES_CLEVELAND~prodigy.net = eric~snet.net Eric Spitzner nick~svn.net Nick Harvey ttoews~telusplanet.net Tony Toews y2k~uswest.net D. Scott Secor - Millennial Infarction Mitigator steve.henderson1~virgin.net Steve Henderson stuart.beale~virgin.net Stuart Beale Trickster~wyld.net Tom C.J.Sibon~mca.alkmaar.nl Clemens Sibon arjanh~cs.vu.nl Hulsebos A sbpoley~xs4all.nl Stephen Poley tmasseur~xs4all.nl Ton Masseur eiander~online.no Eivind Andersen bryans~clear.net.nz Bryan Souster jcewing~acm.org Joel C. Ewing rossde~acm.org David E. Ross BERGSTROM~Eisner.DECUS.Org Tim Bergstrom nat~nataa.fr.eu.org Nat Makarevitch tjsharrock~iee.org Tim Sharrock junga~leo.org Achim Jung rchurch~manheimtownship.org Robin D. Church rich~invidas.dyn.ml.org Rich Lafferty hal~rain.org Hal Finney mjtg~cus.cam.ac.uk Mike Guy cwmw2~phy.cam.ac.uk Caspar Williams del2~cam.ac.uk Douglas de Lacey rb249~cam.ac.uk Rob Beardwell sjh1008~cam.ac.uk Steve Holden APBA~pcmail.nerc-bas.ac.uk Adrian Bateman malcolm~comlab.ox.ac.uk Malcolm Harper conor.oneill~aethos.co.uk Conor O'Neill upson~cableol.co.uk Nick Upson chris~aimless.demon.co.uk chris keen jgh~arcade.demon.co.uk Jonathan Graham Harston bht~bentan.demon.co.uk Ben Tansley Stephen~cjbdev.demon.co.uk Stephen Moore CFVvote~elmbronze.demon.co.uk Dave Eastabrook richard~farrovia.demon.co.uk Richard Farrow Ian~ibrownandco.demon.co.uk Ian Brown jrs~merlyn.demon.co.uk John Stockton matt~molnir.demon.co.uk Matt Foster nick~njones.demon.co.uk Nick Jones Dave.Sparks~sisyphus.demon.co.uk Dave Sparks hugh~st-ronan.demon.co.uk Hugh Simmons Newsagent~Westfarthing.demon.co.uk John Dexter news-uk~dircon.co.uk Phil Edwards monitor~insider.co.uk Michael McCormack d.lamb~k-net.co.uk David Lamb mike.keighley~lexicon.co.uk Mike Keighley quantum~luna.co.uk Richard G Bellew charles~hankel.mersinet.co.uk Charles F Hankel aw1~stade.co.uk Adrian Wontroba nick~tcp.co.uk Nick Austin michael.comiskey.um~nics.gov.uk Michael Comiskey martin.leist.itex~norfolk.gov.uk Martin Leist Voted NO ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- stainles~bga.com Dwight Brown bob149~efortress.com Bob Blanchard tperry~efws.com Thomas Perry david~farrar.com David Farrar dave_reynolds~mentorg.com D Reynolds brooksbane~email.msn.com Jeffrey G. Bane olav~viking.mv.com Olav Nieuwejaar rbenn~ix.netcom.com Randy Bennett john1~world.std.com john1~world.std.com (Fred Cherry) gbacon~pluto.cs.uah.edu Greg Bacon wmm~sxb.bsf.alcatel.fr William McNicol ggchandl~bellsouth.net Gary Chandler croaker~access.digex.net Jr barbara-knox~usa.net Barb Knox Abstained ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- sforsell~aol.com Scott Forsell Invalid ballots ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- dmcd~usa.net David L. McDaniel ! Inavlid email address news~gctech.net Alan Gilman ! Ineligible address News~natron.demon.co.uk Roger Barnett ! Ineligible address altnews~uniserve.com Robert Broughton ! Invalid email address fixxit~bright.net Steve Smith ! Invalid email address rempack~nospam.nl Jeroen van Rijn ! Invalid email address Raven~NOSPAMarpeggio.demon.co.uk P.Hodgson ! Invalid email address needler~tc.fluke.com Carol Winter ! 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