From Roger@rs32.demon.co.uk Wed Nov 1 17:18:05 1995 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: Roger Smith Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.business.insurance,alt.business.misc,bermuda.business.insurance Subject: RFD: misc.industry.insurance moderated Followup-To: news.groups Date: 1 Nov 1995 22:17:57 -0000 Organization: . Lines: 97 Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Approved: newgroups-request@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: <815264275.13772@uunet.uu.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Archive-Name: misc.industry.insurance Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:7790 news.groups:172240 alt.business.insurance:1449 alt.business.misc:77756 bermuda.business.insurance:105 REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) moderated group misc.industry.insurance This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) on the subject of creating a moderated Usenet Newsgroup, misc.industry.insurance. Proposed by: Roger Smith This is not a call for votes. Please do >not< vote now. RATIONALE: misc.industry.insurance The Usenet newsgroup which is the current forum for the discussion of insurance related issues (alt.business.insurance) has currently has two dire problems: * Off topic posts, including mini-spams targeted at the alt.business.* hierarchy, as well as the normal usenet spams, adverts and make-money-fasts. The level of these posts here are extreme. * We find that we suffer (like many alt. groups) from very poor propagation. Many providers as well as many news servers in business organisations simply don't carry this group. The moderated group to allow insurance professionals to exchange ideas and communicate in a 'cleaner' environment. We further believe that by encouraging thread discipline, and therefore a thread name (or keyword in the thread name) which related to the topic under discussion, this single new group would prove sufficient for our needs. CHARTER: misc.industry.insurance The scope of the proposed group misc.industry.insurance should cover basically all insurance related issues which could include, but are not limited to the following: * underwriting * actuarial * claims * information technology in insurance * broking * reinsurance It is hoped that the group would lean towards the discussion of general day-to-day business and away from, for example, protracted discussions on the finer details of a particular actuarial equation. Moderation would only cut in when the subject no longer relates directly to insurance though. As well as being a forum to discuss specific issues, this group will also act as an arena in which to simply make contact with other insurance professionals. The moderation for this group will exist *solely* to filter out the totally off-topic posts, and will not judge on insurance related content. END CHARTER. MODERATOR INFO: misc.industry.insurance Moderator: Roger Smith Submission address: mii@rs32.demon.co.uk Contact address: mii@rs32.demon.co.uk END MODERATOR INFO. PROCEDURE: Please post any responses to this message only to the Usenet Newsgroup "news.groups." If you use the followup feature on your newsreader, this should happen automatically. ALL discussion about the merits of this proposal should appear on news.groups. Unless the discussion indicates a need to resubmit a new RFD, a call for votes (CFV) will be posted approximately four weeks after the posting of this RFD. Please do not post any votes now. When the CFV is posted, instructions will be given on how to mail your votes to the independent vote counter. DISTRIBUTION: This RFD has been cross-posted to the following newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, alt.business.insurance, alt.business.misc, bermuda.business.insurance. Once this document has appeared in news.announce.newgroups, it will further be posted to the Risknet listserv: . Regards, -- Roger Smith From spb@ntrs.com Tue Dec 12 14:41:47 1995 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: Steve Bonine Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.business.insurance,bermuda.business.insurance,alt.business.misc Subject: CFV: misc.industry.insurance moderated Followup-To: poster Date: 12 Dec 1995 19:41:42 -0000 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 128 Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Approved: newgroups-request@uunet.uu.net Expires: 3 Jan 1996 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <12493.55361.319582@uunet.uu.net> References: <815264275.13772@uunet.uu.net> Reply-To: Steve Bonine NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Archive-Name: misc.industry.insurance Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:7989 news.groups:178686 alt.business.insurance:1910 bermuda.business.insurance:122 alt.business.misc:91751 FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) moderated group misc.industry.insurance Newsgroups line: misc.industry.insurance General forum for all insurance issues. (Moderated) Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 2 Jan 1996. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent. Proponent: Roger Smith Votetaker: Steve Bonine RATIONALE: misc.industry.insurance The Usenet newsgroup which is the current forum for the discussion of insurance related issues (alt.business.insurance) has currently has two dire problems: * Off topic posts, including mini-spams targeted at the alt.business.* hierarchy, as well as the normal usenet spams, adverts and make-money-fasts. The level of these posts here are extreme. * We find that we suffer (like many alt. groups) from very poor propagation. Many providers as well as many news servers in business organisations simply don't carry this group. The moderated group to allow insurance professionals to exchange ideas and communicate in a 'cleaner' environment. We further believe that by encouraging thread discipline, and therefore a thread name (or keyword in the thread name) which related to the topic under discussion, this single new group would prove sufficient for our needs. CHARTER: misc.industry.insurance The scope of the proposed group misc.industry.insurance should cover basically all insurance related issues which could include, but are not limited to the following: * underwriting * actuarial * claims * information technology in insurance * broking * reinsurance It is hoped that the group would lean towards the discussion of general day-to-day business and away from, for example, protracted discussions on the finer details of a particular actuarial equation. Moderation would only cut in when the subject no longer relates directly to insurance though. As well as being a forum to discuss specific issues, this group will also act as an arena in which to simply make contact with other insurance professionals. The moderation for this group will exist *solely* to filter out the totally off-topic posts, and will not judge on insurance related content. END CHARTER. MODERATOR INFO: misc.industry.insurance Moderator: Roger Smith Administrative contact address: mii@rs32.demon.co.uk Article submission address: mii@rs32.demon.co.uk Backup moderator: David G. Smith Backup Submission address: Backup contact address: END MODERATOR INFO. HOW TO VOTE: You should send E-MAIL (posts to a newsgroup are invalid) to: voting@ntrs.com Check the address before you mail your vote. Your mail message must contain one and only one of the following vote statements for each group: I vote YES on misc.industry.insurance I vote NO on misc.industry.insurance You can also vote ABSTAIN or CANCEL. These votes are not counted in the results, and CANCEL removes your name from the vote listing in the result. Names are required for this vote. The counting software will extract your name from the mail message if your mailer is properly configured; if your mail software does not indicate your real name, you must include the following statement and add your name (on the same line). Voter name: Vote counting is automated. Failure to follow these directions may mean that your vote does not get counted. If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three days contact the votetaker about the problem. IT'S YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE YOUR VOTE IS REGISTERED CORRECTLY. If you wish to change your vote, simply vote again from the same account; duplicate votes are resolved in favor of the most recent vote. THIS IS NOT A SECRET VOTE. Names, addresses, and votes will be published in a RESULTS article in the same newsgroups in which this CFV appears. The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of persons with Usenet access in creating a new group. Soliciting votes from disinterested parties defeats this purpose. Please do not distribute this CFV. If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted to news.announce.newgroups. Distributing pre-marked or edited copies of this CFV is vote fraud. When in doubt, ask the votetaker. Standard Guidelines for voting apply. One person, one vote. Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker. Anonymous, forwarded or proxy votes are not valid. Votes mailed by WWW servers are considered to be anonymous votes. DISTRIBUTION: In addition to the groups named in the Newsgroups: header, the first CFV and the eventual RESULT posts will be mailed to the mailing lists: Mailing list name: risknet Submission address: risknet@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu Request address (optional): listproc@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu From spb@ntrs.com Wed Dec 20 23:07:39 1995 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: Steve Bonine Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.business.insurance,bermuda.business.insurance,alt.business.misc Subject: 2nd CFV: misc.industry.insurance moderated Supersedes: <12493.55361.319582@uunet.uu.net> Followup-To: poster Date: 21 Dec 1995 04:07:35 -0000 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 130 Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Approved: newgroups-request@uunet.uu.net Expires: 3 Jan 1996 00:00:00 GMT Message-ID: <819518851.18750@uunet.uu.net> References: <815264275.13772@uunet.uu.net> <12493.55361.319582@uunet.uu.net> Reply-To: Steve Bonine NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Archive-Name: misc.industry.insurance Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:8036 news.groups:180394 alt.business.insurance:2054 bermuda.business.insurance:126 alt.business.misc:94481 LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) moderated group misc.industry.insurance Newsgroups line: misc.industry.insurance General forum for all insurance issues. (Moderated) Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 2 Jan 1996. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent. Proponent: Roger Smith Votetaker: Steve Bonine RATIONALE: misc.industry.insurance The Usenet newsgroup which is the current forum for the discussion of insurance related issues (alt.business.insurance) has currently has two dire problems: * Off topic posts, including mini-spams targeted at the alt.business.* hierarchy, as well as the normal usenet spams, adverts and make-money-fasts. The level of these posts here are extreme. * We find that we suffer (like many alt. groups) from very poor propagation. Many providers as well as many news servers in business organisations simply don't carry this group. The moderated group to allow insurance professionals to exchange ideas and communicate in a 'cleaner' environment. We further believe that by encouraging thread discipline, and therefore a thread name (or keyword in the thread name) which related to the topic under discussion, this single new group would prove sufficient for our needs. CHARTER: misc.industry.insurance The scope of the proposed group misc.industry.insurance should cover basically all insurance related issues which could include, but are not limited to the following: * underwriting * actuarial * claims * information technology in insurance * broking * reinsurance It is hoped that the group would lean towards the discussion of general day-to-day business and away from, for example, protracted discussions on the finer details of a particular actuarial equation. Moderation would only cut in when the subject no longer relates directly to insurance though. As well as being a forum to discuss specific issues, this group will also act as an arena in which to simply make contact with other insurance professionals. The moderation for this group will exist *solely* to filter out the totally off-topic posts, and will not judge on insurance related content. END CHARTER. MODERATOR INFO: misc.industry.insurance Moderator: Roger Smith Administrative contact address: mii@rs32.demon.co.uk Article submission address: mii@rs32.demon.co.uk Backup moderator: David G. Smith Backup Submission address: Backup contact address: END MODERATOR INFO. HOW TO VOTE: You should send E-MAIL (posts to a newsgroup are invalid) to: voting@ntrs.com Check the address before you mail your vote. Your mail message must contain one and only one of the following vote statements for each group: I vote YES on misc.industry.insurance I vote NO on misc.industry.insurance You can also vote ABSTAIN or CANCEL. These votes are not counted in the results, and CANCEL removes your name from the vote listing in the result. Names are required for this vote. The counting software will extract your name from the mail message if your mailer is properly configured; if your mail software does not indicate your real name, you must include the following statement and add your name (on the same line). Voter name: Vote counting is automated. Failure to follow these directions may mean that your vote does not get counted. If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three days contact the votetaker about the problem. IT'S YOUR RESPONSIBILITY TO MAKE SURE YOUR VOTE IS REGISTERED CORRECTLY. If you wish to change your vote, simply vote again from the same account; duplicate votes are resolved in favor of the most recent vote. THIS IS NOT A SECRET VOTE. Names, addresses, and votes will be published in a RESULTS article in the same newsgroups in which this CFV appears. The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of persons with Usenet access in creating a new group. Soliciting votes from disinterested parties defeats this purpose. Please do not distribute this CFV. If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted to news.announce.newgroups. Distributing pre-marked or edited copies of this CFV is vote fraud. When in doubt, ask the votetaker. Standard Guidelines for voting apply. One person, one vote. Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker. Anonymous, forwarded or proxy votes are not valid. Votes mailed by WWW servers are considered to be anonymous votes. DISTRIBUTION: In addition to the groups named in the Newsgroups: header, the first CFV and the eventual RESULT posts will be mailed to the mailing lists: Mailing list name: risknet Submission address: risknet@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu Request address (optional): listproc@mcfeeley.cc.utexas.edu Bounce ack: None as of now. From spb@ntrs.com Wed Jan 3 15:43:54 1996 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: Steve Bonine Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,alt.business.insurance,bermuda.business.insurance,alt.business.misc Subject: RESULT: misc.industry.insurance moderated passes 147:24 Supersedes: <819518851.18750@uunet.uu.net> Followup-To: news.groups Date: 3 Jan 1996 15:43:48 -0500 Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Lines: 309 Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Approved: newgroups-request@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: <820701823.20862@uunet.uu.net> References: <815264275.13772@uunet.uu.net> <12493.55361.319582@uunet.uu.net> <819518851.18750@uunet.uu.net> NNTP-Posting-Host: rodan.uu.net Archive-Name: misc.industry.insurance Xref: uunet news.announce.newgroups:8067 news.groups:181863 alt.business.insurance:2338 bermuda.business.insurance:139 alt.business.misc:98802 RESULT moderated group misc.industry.insurance passes 147:24 There were 147 YES votes and 24 NO votes, for a total of 171 valid votes. There was 1 abstain and 19 invalid ballots. For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO) votes. There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes. There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted. If no serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter. Newsgroups line: misc.industry.insurance General forum for all insurance issues. (Moderated) Voting closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 2 Jan 1996. This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent. Proponent: Roger Smith Votetaker: Steve Bonine RATIONALE: misc.industry.insurance The Usenet newsgroup which is the current forum for the discussion of insurance related issues (alt.business.insurance) has currently has two dire problems: * Off topic posts, including mini-spams targeted at the alt.business.* hierarchy, as well as the normal usenet spams, adverts and make-money-fasts. The level of these posts here are extreme. * We find that we suffer (like many alt. groups) from very poor propagation. Many providers as well as many news servers in business organisations simply don't carry this group. The moderated group to allow insurance professionals to exchange ideas and communicate in a 'cleaner' environment. We further believe that by encouraging thread discipline, and therefore a thread name (or keyword in the thread name) which related to the topic under discussion, this single new group would prove sufficient for our needs. CHARTER: misc.industry.insurance The scope of the proposed group misc.industry.insurance should cover basically all insurance related issues which could include, but are not limited to the following: * underwriting * actuarial * claims * information technology in insurance * broking * reinsurance It is hoped that the group would lean towards the discussion of general day-to-day business and away from, for example, protracted discussions on the finer details of a particular actuarial equation. Moderation would only cut in when the subject no longer relates directly to insurance though. As well as being a forum to discuss specific issues, this group will also act as an arena in which to simply make contact with other insurance professionals. The moderation for this group will exist *solely* to filter out the totally off-topic posts, and will not judge on insurance related content. END CHARTER. MODERATOR INFO: misc.industry.insurance Moderator: Roger Smith Administrative contact address: mii@rs32.demon.co.uk Article submission address: mii@rs32.demon.co.uk Backup moderator: David G. Smith Backup Submission address: Backup contact address: END MODERATOR INFO. misc.industry.insurance Final Vote Ack Voted Yes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 100131.1617@compuserve.com Gilles Le Bras 102120.2540@compuserve.com Steven D. Basson 103063.326@compuserve.com Regina Berens @ibm.net Gonzalo Ortiz @notesgw.compuserve.com:Cyrus_C._Katrak@FFIC Cyrus C. Katrak @notesgw.compuserve.com:David_G._Smith@FFIC David G. Smith @notesgw.compuserve.com:Walter_E._Olson@FFIC Walter E. Olson ae446@freenet.carleton.ca Nigel Allen afss@up.net Andrews Fosmire Solka & Stenton, P.C. alan95@access.mountain.net Alan Jones alilly@idirect.com Al Lilly annie@e2.empirenet.com Anne Middleton arctos@arctos.com William Roberts arduino@cdsnet.net Dianne Arduino (Oregon Commercial Insurance Agency) arielle@taronga.com Stephanie da Silva bab@io.com Bruce Baechler BernsteinR@insurance.ca.gov Robert Bernstein BERNSTEN@wulaw.wustl.edu Neil Bernstein BETAI1@delphi.com evan mandigo,cpcu BPSullivan@aol.com Brian P. Sullivan br@netpoint.net Barry Rubin bradman@pipeline.com Brad Mathias Brutus.Lo@corp.sun.com Brutus Lo, Sun Microsystems cat@ides.com Catherine Vojtas catseye@netcom.com Mark Kupferman cCottin@beta.ruhr.de Claudia Cottin clang@echo-on.net Chris Lang cls48@columbia.edu Christopher Lodge Stamper Colin.Edwards@gf.barclays.co.uk Colin Edwards-- dacraig@ix.netcom.com Dale Craig dani@mandic.com.br Daniel Back davidr@on-ramp.ior.com David Reighley davidsen@tmr.com bill davidsen dballard@ix.netcom.com Don Ballard dcarson@infi.net Douglas V. Carson des@ozemail.com.au Paul Donnelly Dick_Kroeger@rhh.aon.com Dick Kroeger dmurphya@cix.compulink.co.uk Dave Murphy doug.weir@londonlife.com Weir, Doug dpaul@inforamp.net Dayan Paul DPLohnes@aol.com David P Lohnes EDGRANDI@delphi.com Edward F. Grandi ergo@merlin.stuttgart.netsurf.de Olaf Follinger ezollars@aztec.asu.edu EDWARD K. ZOLLARS fc61@cityscape.co.uk Simon Clegg fhuggins@mindspring.com Frank Huggins FINCH@INET.champlain.edu L Finch FJROTH@aol.com Francis J. Roth frederic.thomas@VALLEY.NET Fred.Thomas. gautamg@panix.com Gautam Guliani gbudd@oanet.com Graham Budd gdaily@pipeline.com Glenn S. Daily GDJW87A@prodigy.com MR KEVIN M QUINLEY gfield@iamerica.net Gordon Field ggw@wolves.durham.nc.us Gregory G. Woodbury GlennT10@aol.com Glenn Trutner gregs@prysm.net Gregg Shy h9402497@hkusua.hku.hk Paul Fung Kin Yan hbolnick@nwu.edu Howard J. Bolnick hillcoff@idirect.com Ken Hillcoff hruska@mail.clark.net Tom Hruska iandoug@surfer.infolink.co.za Ian Douglas IEInc@ibm.net Information Engineering, Inc. (Gregg Martin) irish@haven.ios.com Bob Morrissey-MSA Consultancy isilv@gramercy.ios.com Israel Silverman jcaudle@direct.ca James Caudle jerryg@iglou.com James Jerrell Greenlee jfaden@ipof.fla.net John F. Aden, Group Sales Representative JGrado@aol.com John Gradowski jmcilwaine@cybergraphic.com.au John McIlwaine JMFord227@aol.com John M. Ford JMolander@bronson.com Julia A. Molander jodam@direct.ca jes odam Joel_Peterson_at_MCMAIL2@ccmail.llu.edu Joel Peterson jokob@magna.com.au John Baumann jpc@hammer.msfc.nasa.gov J. Porter Clark jrwillis@ssnet.com James R. Willis kedwards@hookup.net Keith Edwards khayes@thepoint.net Kenton R. Hayes, Jr. CPCU Kingsley@okak.demon.co.uk Andrew Kingsley KPiersol@aol.com Kim E. Piersol leec@xmission.com Lee Choquette leobueno@miles.netpoint.net Leo Bueno levin@global.co.za Steven Levin lillies@io.org Pat Lillies list-votes@dream.hb.north.de Martin Schr"oder losborne@argus.bm Larry Osborne luke.call@pobox.com Luke Call LukeLEP@aol.com Lisa E. Pearson markcs@neosoft.com Mark C. Scott MArnold3s@aol.com Matt Arnold Matt.Cole@mailgw.er.doe.gov matt.cole@oer.doe.gov maturner@ix.netcom.com Michael A. Turner mda@triskele.com Michael Adams menace@netvoyage.net Dennis L. Mitchell MFlet@aol.com Milton E. Fletcher moocm100@ccmail.ca.boeing.com Craig Moore mpatrick@dirtlaw.com M. Patrick mreap@ix.netcom.com Michael Reap mwdaniel@uiuc.edu Michael W. Daniels n3mav@postoffice.ptd.net Gregory Aaron ndrc@indy.net Elmer Borders nick@positron.netkonect.co.uk nick gratwick NJDGLS@aol.com Nancy Dehmlow olson@swaninc.com BOB OLSON panther@lava.net Albert Vanderburg paxil@interlog.com Trevor Tymchuk peterson@realsys.com Steve Peterson Peter_Kitson@wyattconsult.com Peter Kitson pfrost@sfsu.edu Peter Frost pfsusa@Onramp.NET Ken Price PIM.SNYERS@innet.be Pim SNYERS pontifex@rain.org Kenneth J. Pontifex premium@pavilion.co.uk Gordon Rae rackroyd@freenet.edmonton.ab.ca Richard Ackroyd rai@AZStarNet.com Paul Roller Rcjanecka@aol.com Russell Janecka rcouch@itchy.mis.nb.ca Rick Couch RI002@isgsup.dot.state.az.us David Parker riskman@direct.ca David Barker rkitchen@direct.ca robert kitchen RKoos@aol.com Robert Koos roger@rs32.demon.co.uk Roger Smith rufinus@mbe.ece.wisc.edu J. Rufinus saa@iea.com Alton Cogert sandy@ix.netcom.com Neil Sandow secretan@netbusiness.co.uk P.A.D. Secretan SFX@appl2.hrz.uni-siegen.de Lars Eilebrecht sgermano@erc.cat.syr.edu Steven Germano skilfam@ix.netcom.com Richard Skilton skrypkar@hookup.net denise or mike skrypkar SOCIETYWC@aol.com John Barouski spcarr@nebula.ispace.com Sanford Carr sunap@postoffice.ptd.net Chris Stratford SWINDELLR@wcg.co.uk Robin Swindell theim@roanoke.infi.net Tom Heim thertel@genam.com Tim Hertel tlawson@email.univpubs.american.edu Todd C. Lawson tmbower@pipeline.com Thomas M. Bower towper@mindspring.com carol reynolds twilfong@ix.netcom.com TERRI WILFONG wagle@fox.nstn.ca Peter Wagle werner@ccwf.cc.utexas.edu Werner Uhrig wfurr@cris.com Bill Furr wluther@mindspring.com J. Wade Luther WRiley6530@aol.com William E. Riley ARM,CIC wysocki@datalife.com Chris Wysocki Voted No ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ afabbro@us.itd.umich.edu Andrew Fabbro bill_winn@acm.org Bill Winn bresnab@tiac.net Brian Bresnahan bs56+@andrew.cmu.edu Brian D Sammon careya@PEAK.ORG Andrew Carey csaamw@urc.tue.nl Michiel Wijers jrm@globalvillag.com John R. MacWilliamson kim@shell.portal.com Kim DeVaughn kmitchel@direct.ca Kevin Mitchell lancec@dream.wireless.ucsc.edu Lance K. Chun nick@inferno.fc.hp.com Nick Ingegneri olav@viking.mv.com Olav Nieuwejaar Ollivier.Robert@hsc.fr.net Ollivier Robert patl@lcs.mit.edu Patrick J. LoPresti ptbast@owl.WPI.EDU Pete Bastien redrick@pacificrim.net Richard Nielsen rick@bcm.tmc.edu Richard H. Miller ryang@gwis2.circ.gwu.edu Glen Patrick Ryan smarry@turing.toronto.edu Smarasderagd stainles@bga.com Dwight Brown stick@escalade.com J. Stick techint@winternet.com Technical Intelligence-MN-USA widenius@cc.helsinki.fi Risto Widenius wmeyers@xmission.com William Meyers Abstained ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ mmt@redbrick.com Maxime Taksar KC6ZPS Votes in error ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ banbury@Interpath.com ! No name given birchall@pilot.njin.net Shag ! Invalid name provided. DBLBV@aol.com ! No name given donnoble@hic.net ! No name given Dvconsult@aol.com ! No name given FourTopps@aol.com ! No name given jbrown@top.monad.net ! No name given jimjam@hic.net ! No name given Jimmcon@aol.com ! No name given Jmenna@eworld.com ! No name given JNewton193@aol.com ! No name given KeithF4281@aol.com ! No vote statement in message mrbceo@aol.com MRBCEO ! Invalid name provided Njap@aol.com ! No name given PMaeckel@aol.com ! No name given rjgross@pop.jaring.my ! No name given SModell@aol.com ! No vote statement in message solw@cyberenet.net sol weinstein ! Conflicting votes terih@DGS.dgsys.com ! No name given