From cporter@afn.org Mon Jul 28 14:45:33 1997 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: cporter@afn.org (Colleen Kay Porter) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,misc.kids,misc.kids.computer,misc.kids.pregnancy,misc.kids.health,misc.kids.breastfeeding,misc.kids.vacation,misc.kids.consumers,misc.kids.info Subject: RFD: misc.kids.moderated moderated Followup-To: news.groups Message-ID: <870125779.3867@isc.org> Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org Archive-Name: misc.kids.moderated Date: Mon, 28 Jul 1997 21:36:21 GMT Lines: 359 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:620 REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) moderated group misc.kids.moderated Newsgroups line: misc.kids.moderated Parenting questions, ideas, and experiences. (Moderated) This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of a world-wide moderated Usenet newsgroup misc.kids.moderated. This is not a Call for Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time. Procedural details are below. Please conduct all followup discussion in news.groups. RATIONALE: misc.kids.moderated For the first half of 1996, misc.kids averaged 138 posts per day, down from 246 at the same time of year in 1996. There are many reasons for declining participation at a time when the net as a whole is growing. Many posts are off-topic spams, name calling, commercial advertisements, and debates on social issues crossposted from other groups, with only marginal application to parenting. A few topics take up a disproportionate amount of bandwidth, often in repetitive threads providing little productive discussion. Frequent, nasty flame wars make some posters hesitant to share their views. As a result, many parents find it frustrating and time-consuming to read the group, and the environment can be discouraging to newcomers, as new parents asking an innocent question (whether to breastfeed, how to get a baby to sleep) may find themselves the subject of a flame war. The proposed newsgroup will greatly enhance readability by eliminating crossposts and commercial announcements, using subject tags for high- volume topics, and requiring posts to fit accepted standards for width and length. The moderation policy will combine robo-moderation and a moderation panel to set standards for civil discourse and provide guidance for newcomers, but also allow express posting. The group will provide a supportive atmosphere for newcomers to parenting and/or Usenet by inserting a trailer at the end of each post directing new readers to information about the group, including posting guidelines. This is not an attempt to moderate misc.kids, which will continue to exist for those who want to discuss issues related to children in an unmoderated forum. While other newsgroups and mailing lists devoted to specific aspects of parenting exist and will continue to serve particular niches, the proposed newsgroup will provide a widely propagated group focused on a broad range of parenting issues. CHARTER: misc.kids.moderated Misc.kids.moderated is an inclusive on-line community of parents and other people concerned with raising children. Participants are invited to engage in open discussion of parenting issues and exchange information about raising children, in an atmosphere of civility, friendship, and fun. Acceptable topics include but are not limited to questions about parenting issues, tips on various aspects of child care, and sharing of parenting experiences and insights. Unacceptable topics include but are not limited to posts promoting or defending pedophilia, commercial posts, website announcements, and crossposted items (exceptions include juvenile product recalls, RFDs and CFVs for parenting-related newsgroups, announcements about m.k. yearbook or m.k. picnics, etc.). Posters are encouraged to state their own views and share their experiences, but to refrain from making assumptions about the motivations of other parents. Posters are expected to maintain a basic tone of civility. Prohibited uncivil discourse includes but is not limited to name calling. Posters should avoid the derogatory labeling of child-rearing practices as "child abuse". Posters are asked to keep in mind that every family is different. Posts containing unsolicited advice questioning the right, worthiness, suitability and/or readiness of any individual (or members of any group) to parent are unacceptable in this newsgroup. If an individual chooses to post asking for advice on when or whether to have children, respondents should be careful to address their comments only to the original poster and not explicitly generalize to others in similar situations. Topics that have been demonstrated to cause large volumes of posts in existing misc.kids groups will have a brief subject tag in brackets at the start of the subject line so that persons specifically seeking or avoiding those topics can filter them. For example, [CIRC] for circumcision, [BF] for breastfeeding, [SPANK] for spanking. The list of topics requiring a subject tag is maintained by moderators and updated in the current version of the posting guidelines. Posters are asked to include the tag in the initial posting, or moderators will add an appropriate subject tag as required. Commercial Policy: Commercial postings are not acceptable, whether they are initiated by established businesses or enterprising individuals. Posters may include their business address and URL in a .sig of reasonable length (6 lines or less). Also, posts offering occasional "for-sale" used childcare items from individual posters are permitted; such posts should have an appropriate subject tag. Moderation Policy: Misc.kids.moderated shall employ a combination of human and robomoderation. 1) The robomoderator will screen every article submitted to misc.kids.moderated. It will reject any article that falls into any of the following categories, automatically sending a note explaining the reasons for rejection: A) Articles that contain more than 75 characters per line B) Crossposted articles (exceptions should be sent directly to the moderators at an address listed in the posting guidelines) C) Articles that contain more than 400 lines 2) The robomoderator shall search each submission for certain trigger words, forwarding any submissions containing these trigger words to the panel of human moderators for review. The list of trigger words is maintained by the moderators, who will add words as needed. Trigger words present in the text of messages may indicate off-topic posts, topics requiring a subject tag, or issues that have proven sensitive in the past (thus requiring attention by moderators). For example, "MAKE MONEY FAST" is likely to indicate an off-topic spam, "family bed" indicates a topic for which a subject tag is required, and "child abuse" indicates a sensitive topic. 3) Items with no trigger words will then be checked to see whether the poster is on the "express posting list". Items submitted by posters not on the express posting list will be referred for moderation by the panel, while items submitted by posters on the express posting list will be posted without further moderation. Posters can get on the express posting list two ways. First, they can choose to register by sending e-mail to the newsgroup address listed in the trailer attached to all posts, agreeing to follow the posting guidelines. Second, they can simply post to the group; their posts will be reviewed by the moderation panel, and after four acceptable posts they will be placed on the express posting list and sent a notification of this change in status. 4) If a moderator accepts the article, it is posted to the newsgroup. If the moderator feels the article should be rejected, that moderator writes a comment explaining why and re-queues the article for review by a second moderator. If the second moderator concurs that the article should be rejected, that moderator adds another comment and returns the article to the poster. If the second moderator feels the post is acceptable, it is posted to the newsgroup. Any moderator who is unsure about the appropriateness of a post may poll the moderation board for additional opinions. 5) In the rare case where a poster on the express posting list flagrantly violates the posting guidelines, the offending article may be canceled by the request of three moderators. If this happens more than once, the poster is removed from the express posting list for three months. The moderation panel may also cancel articles that have been posted to misc.kids.moderated due to forgery, errors in the moderation script, or other technical problems. 6) The number of active moderators in the moderation panel shall initially be ten. Additional moderators may be recruited from the readership as demand warrants. If a moderator wants to retire from the moderation panel, he or she must make a public statement at least one month prior to retirement so that a replacement moderator may be found. The moderation board consists of the moderation panel plus additional advisors, who are available to provide non-binding advice to any moderator who requests it while deciding the disposition of a borderline post. When vacancies occur, anyone may volunteer to become a moderator or advisor with the consent of more than half of the current moderation panel. Moderators or advisors may be removed by a vote of two-thirds of the moderation panel. Moderators may request to be put on inactive status due to family or work demands, and one of the advisors may serve as a substitute moderator during the leave of absence. END CHARTER. MODERATOR INFO: misc.kids.moderated The following individuals shall serve as moderators, advisors and software administrators. Moderators: Moderator: Christopher Biow has been a misc.kidder since mid-1995. He has two children, Abigail (2/95) and Mark (9/96). He is also involved with his church's Religious Education program. Moderator: Tom Farley born 1/44 has an MA in theatre arts -- and is an actor, storyteller, writer, web-page manager, Quaker children's programs leader, and a former owner of child/parent/teacher bookstores. He's the father of Ben (5/76) & Sue (9/79, dyslexic); and spouse of Sandy (11/42), a teacher of at-risk teens and teen parents. He's the co-owner Quaker-Y, moderated e-mail list for Quaker youth, member of many email lists including: Our-Kids, SB-Parents, Storytell, Childrens-Writing, Kiwanis-L,Quaker-L, HTML. Tom lives in Northern California. Moderator: Nancygail Katzin-Nystrom doesn't have children yet, but has been going through several years of infertility treatments with her wife. She has a master's in Theological Studies and has taught Sunday School for elementary school age children, as well as Hebrew School for emotionally challenged children. She teaches computers. She has been involved in Usenet and newsgroups for about 5 years, and moderates a mailing list. Moderator: Robyn Kozierok is a long-time misc.kids participant. She began reading around 1988, and was a regular poster for several years after the birth of her first child in 1993. She has two boys, Ryan (9/93) and Matthew (6/96). She also moderates misc.kids.info and is an advisor to soc.culture.jewish.parenting. You can look her up in the 1994 and 1995 misc.kids yearbooks. Moderator: Catherine Lacey Moore is Mom to Brendan (1/91) and Emmett (8/93). She's been a Usenet reader since 1988, and been on misc.kids since 1990 or so when thoughts of Brendan started happening. She's also a YMCA volunteer basketball coach and a software engineer. Moderator: Tracy Lee Murphy is mom to Thomas Russell (8/94) and Timothy (homebirthed 5/97). She's participated in the misc.kids community since 1994. Her other 'Net involvement includes running mailing lists for moms-to-be interested in natural birthing and for parents of spirited toddlers; and a member of email lists discussing bi-racial children, attachment parenting, midwifery and homebirth. She's a full-time curriculum developer in the high- tech industry and her husband, Tom, is a full-time dad. Moderator: Robin Netherton has been married since 1990 and has two sons, Graham (9/93) and Roger (5/96). Together, she and her husband total 84 years of age. Robin has a journalism background and now works at home as a freelance editor. She first found misc.kids when she began reading Usenet in 1994. She also is a member of two age-related parenting lists as well as several professional and hobby lists. She appears in the 1996 photoalbum and is the proud wearer of a misc.kids t-shirt. Moderator: Jennifer L. O'Neal is a single mother of two boys, Rafael (1/90) and Jason (11/94). She works full-time and is about to write her thesis to get a Master's degree in Government. She also volunteers with a local Head Start program, serving on their Policy Committee, their Parent Advisory Committee, and the Male Involvement Committee. She's been involved with Usenet for about 3-4 years now and has been reading Misc.kids since then. She also was a part of the 1996 photo album committee. Moderator: Claire Petersky is now back to being a mother at home with her two girls (9/92 and 11/94), but has been in and out of the work force over the last few years. She has been reading and posting to misc.kids since 1993 and participates in several parenting mailing lists. She headed up the misc.kids t-shirt project in 1995, and is second-in-command in the effort to create misc.kids.moderated. Her family is in the 1995 and 1996 misc.kids photoalbums. Moderator: Dawn Price has read misc.kids for 3.5 years and has one child, Henry. Her family is currently waiting to adopt a second child (Henry is also adopted). She's an avid newsgroup reader but only participates in misc.kids regularly. She also belongs to an adoption listserv. Her family is in the 1996 misc.kids photoalbum. Advisors: Advisor: Noreen Cooper Heavlin is an older mom of a Terrific Toddler who keeps her too busy to have mid-life crisises. Before having children, Noreen practiced for three years by being a Big Sister, a program which pairs adult mentors and youth from single, low-income families. She has been a Usenet junkie since 1993 and has a Master's degree in Library and Information Science. Advisor: Lisa Curhan is Mom to Benjamin (4/95). She's been following misc.kids since he was conceived, and she's been a USENET enthusiast for about 5 years. She has a Masters in Electrical Engineering and has been working as a EE for various computer companies for about 15 years. Advisor: Jen Hassler has been a "mostly active" participant in misc.kids off and on for about three years now. She has two lovely daughters, Elspeth Jon (11/87) and Moira Lenore (10/90). For most of her parental life she has been an at-home mom, but for now she is a child care provider who also homeschools her children. Advisor: Marjorie Peskin is the mother of twins, Gemma and Graham (8/92). She is a founder and moderator of soc.culture.jewish.parenting; co-founder of our-kids, the mailing list for parents of children with disabilities; founding member of the Twins list and alt.infertility; and has been posting on misc.kids for about 10 years. Marjorie founded the misc.kids photoalbum and worked feverishly on the 1992, 93, and 94 versions. She is an active poster on TAGFAM and the spirited-kids mailing lists, and well as several private mailing lists devoted to parenting. Advisor: Colleen Kay Porter is a mother at home to Phillip (8/75), Julia (8/79), Rebecca (3/81), Elaine (5/91), and Lorissa (5/93). She's a volunteer with her state's early intervention program, serving as a mentor to new parents. She maintains two misc.kids FAQs, and participated in the 1995 misc.kids photoalbum. She has managed the effort to create misc.kids.moderated. Software Administrators: Administrator: Amy Moseley Rupp has read misc.kids since 1991, when she posted about being afraid to become pregnant and deliver a baby. The many comforting, reassuring, and encouraging posts she received still touch her to this day. Her family appears in all four photoalbums, and she maintains the Caesarean section FAQ. She holds a BSEE from the University of Texas and is a UNIX operating systems programmer. Administrator: Lauren Blau Halverson has been reading misc.kids since 1989 . She has two sons, Christopher (6/93) and Jonathan (5/95, born at home). She has a Master's in Computer Science from UMASS and is currently employed as a senior software engineer. The Halversons helped organize the 1995 Washington Area misc.kids picnic and are in the 94-96 misc.kids yearbooks. Administrator: Penny Gaines is the mother of a son (6/94). She lives in the UK and has been a regular misc.kid participant since 1993. Her family can be found in the 95 photoalbum. END MODERATOR INFO. PROCEDURE: This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes. In this phase of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroups should be raised and resolved. The discussion period will continue for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the first RFD for this proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups), after which a Call For Votes (CFV) will be posted by a neutral vote taker. Please do not attempt to vote until this happens. All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups. This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup creation guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "How to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal". Please refer to these documents (available in news.announce.newgroups) if you have any questions about the process. DISTRIBUTION: This RFD has been cross-posted to the following newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, misc.kids, misc.kids.computer, misc.kids.pregnancy, misc.kids.info, misc.kids.health, misc.kids.breastfeeding, misc.kids.vacation, misc.kids.consumers PROPONENT INFO: Proponent: Colleen Kay Porter Proponent: Claire Petersky Mentor: Kate Gregory From cporter@afn.org Mon Oct 13 15:15:11 1997 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: cporter@afn.org (Colleen Kay Porter) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,misc.kids,misc.kids.computer,misc.kids.pregnancy,misc.kids.health,misc.kids.breastfeeding,misc.kids.vacation,misc.kids.consumers,misc.kids.info Subject: 2nd RFD: misc.kids.moderated moderated Followup-To: news.groups Message-ID: <876780544.12764@isc.org> Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org Archive-Name: misc.kids.moderated Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 22:09:06 GMT Lines: 406 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:851 REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) moderated group misc.kids.moderated CHANGES from previous RFD: This is the 2nd RFD for misc.kids.moderated and addresses concerns raised in news.groups during the first RFD. This RFD changes the requirements for getting on the express poster list, adds a charter change provision and the exclusion of certain binary and non-text format messages, and clarifies policies regarding line width limits and post cancellation. This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of a world-wide moderated Usenet newsgroup misc.kids.moderated. This is not a Call for Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time. Procedural details are below. Please conduct all followup discussion in news.groups. Newsgroups line: misc.kids.moderated Parenting questions, ideas, and experiences. (Moderated) RATIONALE: misc.kids.moderated For the first half of 1997, misc.kids averaged 138 posts per day, down from 246 at the same time of year in 1996. There are many reasons for a decline in participation at a time when the net as a whole is growing. Many posts are off-topic spams, name calling, commercial advertisements, and debates on social issues crossposted from other groups, with only marginal application to parenting. A few topics take up a disproportionate amount of bandwidth, often in repetitive threads providing little productive discussion. Frequent, nasty flame wars make some posters hesitant to share their views. As a result, many parents find it frustrating and time-consuming to read the group, and the environment can be discouraging to newcomers, as new parents asking an innocent question (whether to breastfeed, how to get a baby to sleep) may find themselves the subject of a flame war. The proposed newsgroup will greatly enhance readability by eliminating crossposts and commercial announcements, using subject tags for high- volume topics, and requiring posts to fit accepted standards for width and length. The moderation policy will combine robomoderation and a moderation panel to set standards for civil discourse and provide guidance for newcomers, but also allow express posting. The group will provide a supportive atmosphere for newcomers to parenting and/or Usenet by inserting a trailer at the end of each post directing new readers to information about the group, including posting guidelines. This is not an attempt to moderate misc.kids, which will continue to exist for those who want to discuss issues related to children in an unmoderated forum. While other newsgroups and mailing lists devoted to specific aspects of parenting exist and will continue to serve particular niches, the proposed newsgroup will provide a widely propagated group focused on a broad range of parenting issues. CHARTER: misc.kids.moderated Misc.kids.moderated is an inclusive on-line community of parents and other people concerned with raising children. Participants are invited to engage in open discussion of parenting issues and exchange information about raising children, in an atmosphere of civility, friendship, and fun. Acceptable topics include but are not limited to questions about parenting issues, tips on various aspects of child care, and sharing of parenting experiences and insights. Unacceptable posts include but are not limited to commerical posts, website announcements, posts promoting or defending pedophilia, and cross-posted items (with exceptions for juvenile product recalls, RFDs and CFVs for parenting-related newsgroups, announcements for m.k. yearbook or m.k. picnics, etc.). Posters are encouraged to state their own views and share their experiences, but to refrain from making assumptions about the motivations of other parents. Posters are expected to maintain a basic tone of civility. Prohibited uncivil discourse includes but is not limited to name calling. Posters should avoid the derogatory labeling of child-rearing practices as "child abuse." Posters are asked to keep in mind that every family is different. Posts containing unsolicited advice questioning the right, worthiness, suitability and/or readiness of any individual (or members of any group) to parent are unacceptable in this newsgroup. If an individual chooses to post asking for advice on when or whether to have children, respondents should be careful to address their comments only to the original poster and not explicitly generalize to others in similar situations. Posts on topics that have been demonstrated to generate large volumes in existing misc.kids groups require a brief subject tag in brackets at the start of the subject line so that persons specifically seeking or avoiding those topics can filter them. For example, [CIRC] for circumcision, [BF] for breastfeeding, [SPANK] for spanking. The list of topics requiring a subject tag is maintained by moderators and updated in the current version of the posting guidelines. Posters are asked to include the tag when posting, or moderators will add an appropriate subject tag as required. Commercial Policy: Commercial postings are not acceptable, whether they are initiated by established businesses or enterprising individuals. Posters may include their business address and URL in a .sig of reasonable length (6 lines or less). Also, posts offering occasional "for-sale" used childcare items from individual posters are permitted; such posts should have an appropriate subject tag. Moderation Policy: Misc.kids.moderated shall employ a combination of human and robomoderation. 1) The robomoderator screens every article submitted to misc.kids.moderated. It returns any article that falls into any of the following categories, automatically sending a note explaining the reasons for rejection: A) Articles that contain original text of more than 75 characters per line B) Crossposted articles (exceptions should be sent directly to the moderators at an address listed in the posting guidelines) C) Articles that contain more than 400 lines D) Encoded binary files (except PGP and other short digital signatures) E) Other non-plaintext formats at the moderators' discretion F) Attachments to posts 2) The robomoderator searches each submission for certain trigger words, forwarding any submissions containing these trigger words to the panel of human moderators for review. The list of trigger words is maintained by the moderators, who modify the list as needed. Trigger words present in the text of messages may indicate off-topic posts, topics requiring a subject tag, or issues that have proven sensitive in the past (thus requiring attention by moderators). For example, "MAKE MONEY FAST" is likely to indicate an off-topic spam, "family bed" indicates a topic for which a subject tag is required, and "child abuse" indicates a sensitive topic. 3) Items with no trigger words are then checked to see whether the poster is on the "express posting list." Items submitted by posters not on the express posting list are referred for moderation by the panel, while items submitted by posters on the express posting list are posted without further moderation. Posters desiring to join the express poster list can register by sending e-mail to the administrative address explicitly stating that they agree to follow the posting guidelines. Posters who have not yet registered will receive an invitation to join after they have made four consecutive acceptable posts. Posters preferring never to use the express posting mechanism need not register. Express posters can designate a particular post for hand moderation by using a special keyword. In the case of a serious security breach on the express poster list, the moderators may choose to either suspend additions to express posting or switch the group to temporary hand moderation for a period of up to two weeks. 4) If a moderator accepts the article, it is posted to the newsgroup. If the moderator feels the article should be rejected, that moderator writes a comment explaining why and re-queues the article for review by a second moderator. If the second moderator concurs that the article should be rejected, that moderator adds another comment and returns the article to the poster. If the second moderator feels the post is acceptable, it is posted to the newsgroup. Any moderator who is unsure about the appropriateness of a post may poll the moderation board for additional opinions. 5) The moderation panel may cancel articles that have been posted to misc.kids.moderated due to forgery, errors in the moderation script, or other technical problems. In cases where a poster using the express-posting mechanism violates the posting guidelines, the moderators respond in a manner that seems appropriate to the level of offense: they may send a note of reprimand to the poster, issue a public disavowal that the article does not meet posting guidelines, and/or revoke express-posting status for an appropriate probationary period. In rare cases where an express- posted article contains flagrant violations of the charter, the offending article may be canceled by the request of three moderators, subsequently confirmed by a two-thirds vote of the available moderation board. Flagrant violations include posting private information (like phone numbers) where the victim objects or where there is evidence of hostile intent, newsgroup flood attacks or other net abuse, posts promoting pedophilia, and off-charter posts which, through apparent malice, circumvent the normal functioning of the robomoderator. Posters registering for express poster status agree to this provision, along with the group's other posting guidelines, as a condition of becoming an express poster. The moderators may, at their discretion, substitute or supplement other technology for cancels if and when such a new technology proves to be more practical. 6) The number of active moderators in the moderation panel is initially ten. Additional moderators may be recruited from the readership as demand warrants. If a moderator wants to retire from the moderation panel, he or she must make a public statement at least one month prior to retirement so that a replacement moderator may be found. The moderation board consists of the moderation panel plus additional advisors, who are available to provide non-binding advice to any moderator who requests it while deciding the disposition of a borderline post. The number of advisors is no more than half of the number of moderators. When vacancies occur, anyone may volunteer to become a moderator or advisor with the consent of more than half of the current moderation panel. Moderators or advisors may be removed by a vote of two-thirds of the moderation panel. Moderators may request to be put on inactive status due to family or work demands, and one of the advisors may serve as a substitute moderator during the leave of absence. 7) All changes in policy are decided by a two-thirds majority of the moderation board. Before making any major changes, the moderators will conduct a two-week public comment period on the newsgroup at large. END CHARTER. MODERATOR INFO: misc.kids.moderated The following individuals shall serve as moderators, advisors and software administrators. Moderators: Moderator: Christopher Biow has been a misc.kidder since mid-1995. He has two children, Abigail (2/95) and Mark (9/96). He is also involved with his church's Religious Education program. Moderator: Tom Farley born 1/44 has an MA in theatre arts -- and is an actor, storyteller, writer, web-page manager, Quaker children's programs leader, and a former owner of child/parent/teacher bookstores. He's the father of Ben (5/76) & Sue (9/79, dyslexic); and spouse of Sandy (11/42), a teacher of at-risk teens and teen parents. He's the co-owner Quaker-Y, moderated e-mail list for Quaker youth, member of many email lists including: Our-Kids, SB-Parents, Storytell, Childrens-Writing, Kiwanis-L, Quaker-L. Tom lives in Northern California. Moderator: Nancygail Katzin-Nystrom doesn't have children yet, but has been going through several years of infertility treatments with her wife. She has a master's in Theological Studies and has taught Sunday School for elementary school age children, as well as Hebrew School for emotionally challenged children. She teaches computers. She has been involved in Usenet and newsgroups for about 5 years, and moderates a mailing list. Moderator: Robyn Kozierok is a long-time misc.kids participant. She began reading around 1988, and was a regular poster for several years after the birth of her first child in 1993. She has two boys, Ryan (9/93) and Matthew (6/96). She also moderates misc.kids.info and is an advisor to soc.culture.jewish.parenting. You can look her up in the 1994 and 1995 misc.kids yearbooks. Moderator: Catherine Lacey Moore is Mom to Brendan (1/91) and Emmett (8/93). She's been a Usenet reader since 1988, and been on misc.kids since 1990 or so when thoughts of Brendan started happening. She's also a YMCA volunteer basketball coach and a software engineer. Moderator: Tracy Lee Murphy is mom to Thomas Russell (8/94) and Timothy (homebirthed 5/97). She's participated in the misc.kids community since 1994. Her other 'Net involvement includes running mailing lists for moms-to-be interested in natural birthing and for parents of spirited toddlers; and a member of email lists discussing bi-racial children, attachment parenting, midwifery and homebirth. She's a full-time curriculum developer in the high- tech industry and her husband, Tom, is a full-time dad. Moderator: Robin Netherton has been married since 1990 and has two sons, Graham (9/93) and Roger (5/96). Together, she and her husband total 84 years of age. Robin has a journalism background and now works at home as a freelance editor. She first found misc.kids when she began reading Usenet in 1994. She also is a member of two age-related parenting lists as well as several professional and hobby lists. She appears in the 1996 photoalbum and is the proud wearer of a misc.kids t-shirt. Moderator: Jennifer L. O'Neal is a single mother of two boys, Rafael (1/90) and Jason (11/94). She works full-time and is about to write her thesis to get a Master's degree in Government. She also volunteers with a local Head Start program, serving on their Policy Committee, their Parent Advisory Committee, and the Male Involvement Committee. She's been involved with Usenet for about 3-4 years now and has been reading Misc.kids since then. She also was a part of the 1996 photo album committee. Moderator: Claire Petersky is now back to being a mother at home with her two girls (9/92 and 11/94), but has been in and out of the work force over the last few years. She has been reading and posting to misc.kids since 1993 and participates in several parenting mailing lists. She headed up the misc.kids t-shirt project in 1995, and is second-in-command in the effort to create misc.kids.moderated. Her family is in the 1995 and 1996 misc.kids photoalbums. Moderator: Dawn Price has read misc.kids for 3.5 years and has one child, Henry. Her family is currently waiting to adopt a second child (Henry is also adopted). She's an avid newsgroup reader but only participates in misc.kids regularly. She also belongs to an adoption listserv. Her family is in the 1996 misc.kids photoalbum. Advisors: Advisor: Noreen Cooper Heavlin is an older mom of a Terrific Toddler who keeps her too busy to have mid-life crisises. Before having children, Noreen practiced for three years by being a Big Sister, a program which pairs adult mentors and youth from single, low-income families. She has been a Usenet junkie since 1993 and has a Master's degree in Library and Information Science. Advisor: Lisa Curhan is Mom to Benjamin (4/95). She's been following misc.kids since he was conceived, and she's been a USENET enthusiast for about 5 years. She has a Masters in Electrical Engineering and has been working as a EE for various computer companies for about 15 years. Advisor: Jen Hassler has been a "mostly active" participant in misc.kids off and on for about three years now. She has two lovely daughters, Elspeth Jon (11/87) and Moira Lenore (10/90). For most of her parental life she has been an at-home mom, but for now she is a child care provider who also homeschools her children. Advisor: Marjorie Peskin is a founder and moderator of soc.culture.jewish.parenting; co-founder of our-kids, a list for parents of developmentally delayed children; founding member of the Twins list and alt.infertility; and has been active on misc.kids for over 11 years. She founded the misc.kids photoalbum and worked on the 1992, 93, and 94 issues. She posts to GTworld, spirited-kids, TOR-CH, mail.jewish-liberal, and other mailing lists devoted to parenting and/or Judaism. She is an information engineer and the mother of fraternal B/G twins born 8/24/92. Advisor: Colleen Kay Porter is a mother at home to Phillip (8/75), Julia (8/79), Rebecca (3/81), Elaine (5/91), and Lorissa (5/93). She's a volunteer with her state's early intervention program, serving as a mentor to new parents. She maintains two misc.kids FAQs, and participated in the 1995 misc.kids photoalbum. She has managed the effort to create misc.kids.moderated. Software Administrators: Administrator: Amy Moseley Rupp has read misc.kids since 1991, when she posted about being afraid to become pregnant and deliver a baby. The many comforting, reassuring, and encouraging posts she received still touch her to this day. Her family appears in all four photoalbums, and she maintains the Caesarean section FAQ. She holds a BSEE from the University of Texas and is a UNIX operating systems programmer. Administrator: Lauren Blau Halverson has been reading misc.kids since 1989 . She has two sons, Christopher (6/93) and Jonathan (5/95, born at home). She has a Master's in Computer Science from UMASS and is currently employed as a senior software engineer. The Halversons helped organize the 1995 Washington Area misc.kids picnic and are in the 94-96 misc.kids yearbooks. Administrator: Penny Gaines lives in the south of England and is an unwaged mum to Robert (6/94) and Isobel (7/96). Before Robert was born, she worked as a software engineer for a specialist UNIX consultancy, using C and UNIX utilities. Currently Penny is treasurer to a Parent and Toddler group and is involved with the local branch of the National Childbirth Trust. END MODERATOR INFO. PROCEDURE: This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes. In this phase of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroups should be raised and resolved. The discussion period will continue for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the first RFD for this proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups), after which a Call For Votes (CFV) will be posted by a neutral vote taker. Please do not attempt to vote until this happens. All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups. This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup creation guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "How to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal". Please refer to these documents (available in news.announce.newgroups) if you have any questions about the process. DISTRIBUTION: This RFD has been cross-posted to the following newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups, news.groups, misc.kids, misc.kids.computer, misc.kids.pregnancy, misc.kids.info, misc.kids.health, misc.kids.breastfeeding, misc.kids.vacation, misc.kids.consumers PROPONENT INFO: Proponent: Colleen Kay Porter Proponent: Claire Petersky Proponent: Lynn Diana Gazis-Sax Mentor: Kate Gregory From neilc@stanford.edu Thu Oct 30 02:30:07 1997 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: Neil Crellin Reply-To: voting@uvv.stanford.edu Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,misc.kids,misc.kids.breastfeeding,misc.kids.computer,misc.kids.consumers,misc.kids.health,misc.kids.pregnancy,misc.kids.vacation,misc.kids.info Subject: CFV: misc.kids.moderated moderated Followup-To: poster Message-ID: <878206844.14340@isc.org> References: <870125779.3867@isc.org> <876780544.12764@isc.org> Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org Expires: 21 Nov 1997 00:00:00 GMT Archive-Name: misc.kids.moderated Date: Thu, 30 Oct 1997 10:20:44 GMT Lines: 330 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:900 FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) moderated group misc.kids.moderated This CFV is to be distributed only by the votetaker. It is not to be posted to newsgroups, or mailed to mailing lists or individuals, except by the votetaker. Ballots or CFVs provided by anyone else will be invalid. Newsgroups line: misc.kids.moderated Parenting questions, ideas, and experiences. (Moderated) Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 20 Nov 1997. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent. Proponent: Colleen Kay Porter Proponent: Claire Petersky Proponent: Lynn Diana Gazis-Sax Mentor: Kate Gregory Votetaker: Neil Crellin RATIONALE: misc.kids.moderated For the first half of 1997, misc.kids averaged 138 posts per day, down from 246 at the same time of year in 1996. There are many reasons for a decline in participation at a time when the net as a whole is growing. Many posts are off-topic spams, name calling, commercial advertisements, and debates on social issues crossposted from other groups, with only marginal application to parenting. A few topics take up a disproportionate amount of bandwidth, often in repetitive threads providing little productive discussion. Frequent, nasty flame wars make some posters hesitant to share their views. As a result, many parents find it frustrating and time-consuming to read the group, and the environment can be discouraging to newcomers, as new parents asking an innocent question (whether to breastfeed, how to get a baby to sleep) may find themselves the subject of a flame war. The proposed newsgroup will greatly enhance readability by eliminating crossposts and commercial announcements, using subject tags for high- volume topics, and requiring posts to fit accepted standards for width and length. The moderation policy will combine robomoderation and a moderation panel to set standards for civil discourse and provide guidance for newcomers, but also allow express posting. The group will provide a supportive atmosphere for newcomers to parenting and/or Usenet by inserting a trailer at the end of each post directing new readers to information about the group, including posting guidelines. This is not an attempt to moderate misc.kids, which will continue to exist for those who want to discuss issues related to children in an unmoderated forum. While other newsgroups and mailing lists devoted to specific aspects of parenting exist and will continue to serve particular niches, the proposed newsgroup will provide a widely propagated group focused on a broad range of parenting issues. CHARTER: misc.kids.moderated Misc.kids.moderated is an inclusive on-line community of parents and other people concerned with raising children. Participants are invited to engage in open discussion of parenting issues and exchange information about raising children, in an atmosphere of civility, friendship, and fun. Acceptable topics include but are not limited to questions about parenting issues, tips on various aspects of child care, and sharing of parenting experiences and insights. Unacceptable posts include but are not limited to commercial posts, website announcements, posts promoting or defending pedophilia, and cross-posted items (with exceptions for juvenile product recalls, RFDs and CFVs for parenting-related newsgroups, announcements for m.k. yearbook or m.k. picnics, etc.). Posters are encouraged to state their own views and share their experiences, but to refrain from making assumptions about the motivations of other parents. Posters are expected to maintain a basic tone of civility. Prohibited uncivil discourse includes but is not limited to name calling. Posters should avoid the derogatory labeling of child-rearing practices as "child abuse." Posters are asked to keep in mind that every family is different. Posts containing unsolicited advice questioning the right, worthiness, suitability and/or readiness of any individual (or members of any group) to parent are unacceptable in this newsgroup. If an individual chooses to post asking for advice on when or whether to have children, respondents should be careful to address their comments only to the original poster and not explicitly generalize to others in similar situations. Posts on topics that have been demonstrated to generate large volumes in existing misc.kids groups require a brief subject tag in brackets at the start of the subject line so that persons specifically seeking or avoiding those topics can filter them. For example, [CIRC] for circumcision, [BF] for breastfeeding, [SPANK] for spanking. The list of topics requiring a subject tag is maintained by moderators and updated in the current version of the posting guidelines. Posters are asked to include the tag when posting, or moderators will add an appropriate subject tag as required. Commercial Policy: Commercial postings are not acceptable, whether they are initiated by established businesses or enterprising individuals. Posters may include their business address and URL in a .sig of reasonable length (6 lines or less). Also, posts offering occasional "for-sale" used childcare items from individual posters are permitted; such posts should have an appropriate subject tag. Moderation Policy: Misc.kids.moderated shall employ a combination of human and robomoderation. 1) The robomoderator screens every article submitted to misc.kids.moderated. It returns any article that falls into any of the following categories, automatically sending a note explaining the reasons for rejection: A) Articles that contain original text of more than 75 characters per line B) Crossposted articles (exceptions should be sent directly to the moderators at an address listed in the posting guidelines) C) Articles that contain more than 400 lines D) Encoded binary files (except PGP and other short digital signatures) E) Other non-plaintext formats at the moderators' discretion F) Attachments to posts 2) The robomoderator searches each submission for certain trigger words, forwarding any submissions containing these trigger words to the panel of human moderators for review. The list of trigger words is maintained by the moderators, who modify the list as needed. Trigger words present in the text of messages may indicate off-topic posts, topics requiring a subject tag, or issues that have proven sensitive in the past (thus requiring attention by moderators). For example, "MAKE MONEY FAST" is likely to indicate an off-topic spam, "family bed" indicates a topic for which a subject tag is required, and "child abuse" indicates a sensitive topic. 3) Items with no trigger words are then checked to see whether the poster is on the "express posting list." Items submitted by posters not on the express posting list are referred for moderation by the panel, while items submitted by posters on the express posting list are posted without further moderation. Posters desiring to join the express poster list can register by sending e-mail to the administrative address explicitly stating that they agree to follow the posting guidelines. Posters who have not yet registered will receive an invitation to join after they have made four consecutive acceptable posts. Posters preferring never to use the express posting mechanism need not register. Express posters can designate a particular post for hand moderation by using a special keyword. In the case of a serious security breach on the express poster list, the moderators may choose to either suspend additions to express posting or switch the group to temporary hand moderation for a period of up to two weeks. 4) If a moderator accepts the article, it is posted to the newsgroup. If the moderator feels the article should be rejected, that moderator writes a comment explaining why and re-queues the article for review by a second moderator. If the second moderator concurs that the article should be rejected, that moderator adds another comment and returns the article to the poster. If the second moderator feels the post is acceptable, it is posted to the newsgroup. Any moderator who is unsure about the appropriateness of a post may poll the moderation board for additional opinions. 5) The moderation panel may cancel articles that have been posted to misc.kids.moderated due to forgery, errors in the moderation script, or other technical problems. In cases where a poster using the express-posting mechanism violates the posting guidelines, the moderators respond in a manner that seems appropriate to the level of offense: they may send a note of reprimand to the poster, issue a public disavowal that the article does not meet posting guidelines, and/or revoke express-posting status for an appropriate probationary period. In rare cases where an express- posted article contains flagrant violations of the charter, the offending article may be canceled by the request of three moderators, subsequently confirmed by a two-thirds vote of the available moderation board. Flagrant violations include posting private information (like phone numbers) where the victim objects or where there is evidence of hostile intent, newsgroup flood attacks or other net abuse, posts promoting pedophilia, and off-charter posts which, through apparent malice, circumvent the normal functioning of the robomoderator. Posters registering for express poster status agree to this provision, along with the group's other posting guidelines, as a condition of becoming an express poster. The moderators may, at their discretion, substitute or supplement other technology for cancels if and when such a new technology proves to be more practical. 6) The number of active moderators in the moderation panel is initially ten, with a minimum of 7 active moderators at any time. Additional moderators may be recruited from the readership as demand warrants. If a moderator wants to retire from the moderation panel, he or she must make a public statement at least one month prior to retirement so that a replacement moderator may be found. The moderation board consists of the moderation panel plus additional advisors, who are available to provide non-binding advice to any moderator who requests it while deciding the disposition of a borderline post. The number of advisors is no more than half of the number of moderators. When vacancies occur, anyone may volunteer to become a moderator or advisor with the consent of more than half of the current moderation panel. Moderators or advisors may be removed by a vote of two-thirds of the moderation panel. Moderators may request to be put on inactive status due to family or work demands, and one of the advisors may serve as a substitute moderator during the leave of absence. 7) All changes in policy are decided by a two-thirds majority of the moderation board. Before making any major changes, the moderators will conduct a two-week public comment period on the newsgroup at large. END CHARTER. MODERATOR INFO: misc.kids.moderated Moderator: Christopher Biow Moderator: Tom Farley Moderator: Nancygail Katzin-Nystrom Moderator: Robyn Kozierok Moderator: Catherine Lacey Moore Moderator: Tracy Lee Murphy Moderator: Robin Netherton Moderator: "Jennifer L. O'Neal" Moderator: Claire Petersky Moderator: Dawn Price Administrative contact address: mkm-request@ai.mit.edu Article submission address: mkm-submit@ai.mit.edu END MODERATOR INFO. IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES: READ THIS BEFORE VOTING Standard Guidelines for voting apply. One vote per person, one account per voter. Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker. Anonymous, forwarded or proxy votes are not valid. Votes mailed by WWW/HTML/CGI forms are considered to be anonymous votes. Vote counting is automated. Failure to follow these directions may mean that your vote does not get counted. If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three days contact the votetaker about the problem. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly. Duplicate votes are resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote. Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results post. The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of persons who would read a proposed newsgroup. Soliciting votes from disinterested parties defeats this purpose. Please do not distribute this CFV. If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted to news.announce.newgroups. Distributing pre-marked or otherwise edited copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud. When in doubt, ask the votetaker. HOW TO VOTE: Extract the ballot from the CFV by deleting everything before and after the "BEGINNING OF BALLOT" and "END OF BALLOT" lines. Don't worry about the spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your reply inserts. Please, DO NOT send the entire CFV back to me! Fill in the ballot as shown below. Please provide your REAL NAME and indicate your desired vote in the appropriate locations inside the ballot. When finished, MAIL the ballot to: < voting@uvv.stanford.edu > Just "replying" to this message should work, but check the "To:" line. Examples of how to properly indicate your vote: [ YES ] example.yes.vote [ NO ] example.no.vote [ ABSTAIN ] example.abstention [ CANCEL ] example.cancellation DO NOT modify, alter or delete any information in this ballot! If you do, the voting software will probably reject your ballot. If these instructions are unclear, please consult the Introduction to Usenet Voting or the Usenet Voting FAQ at http://www.stanford.edu/~neilc/uvv. ======== BEGINNING OF BALLOT: Delete everything before this line ======= .----------------------------------------------------------------------- | 1ST CALL FOR VOTES: misc.kids.moderated | Official Usenet Voting Ballot (Do not remove this line!) |----------------------------------------------------------------------- | Please provide your real name, or your vote may be rejected. Place | ONLY your name (ie. do NOT include your e-mail address or any other | information; ONLY your name) after the colon on the following line: Voter name: | Insert YES, NO, ABSTAIN, or CANCEL inside the brackets for each | newsgroup listed below (do not delete the newsgroup name): Your Vote Newsgroup --------- ----------------------------------------------------------- [ ] misc.kids.moderated (moderated) ======== END OF BALLOT: Delete everything after this line ============== DISTRIBUTION: Pointers directing readers to this CFV will be posted in these groups: alt.child-support alt.parenting.solutions alt.parenting.spanking alt.parenting.twins-triplets alt.parents-teens alt.support.diabetes.kids alt.support.foster-parents alt.support.single-parents alt.support.step-parents soc.adoption.parenting This CFV was created with uvpq 1.0 (Aug 14 1997). PQ datestamp: 970324 -- Voting address: voting@uvv.stanford.edu From neilc@stanford.edu Tue Nov 11 12:08:12 1997 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: Neil Crellin Reply-To: voting@uvv.stanford.edu Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,misc.kids,misc.kids.breastfeeding,misc.kids.computer,misc.kids.consumers,misc.kids.health,misc.kids.info,misc.kids.pregnancy,misc.kids.vacation Subject: 2nd CFV: misc.kids.moderated moderated Followup-To: poster Message-ID: <879270304.1031@isc.org> References: <870125779.3867@isc.org> <876780544.12764@isc.org> <878206844.14340@isc.org> Supersedes: <878206844.14340@isc.org> Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org Expires: 21 Nov 1997 00:00:00 GMT Archive-Name: misc.kids.moderated Date: Tue, 11 Nov 1997 17:45:04 GMT Lines: 334 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:935 LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) moderated group misc.kids.moderated This CFV is to be distributed only by the votetaker. It is not to be posted to newsgroups, or mailed to mailing lists or individuals, except by the votetaker. Ballots or CFVs provided by anyone else will be invalid. Newsgroups line: misc.kids.moderated Parenting questions, ideas, and experiences. (Moderated) Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 20 Nov 1997. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent. Proponent: Colleen Kay Porter Proponent: Claire Petersky Proponent: Lynn Diana Gazis-Sax Mentor: Kate Gregory Votetaker: Neil Crellin RATIONALE: misc.kids.moderated For the first half of 1997, misc.kids averaged 138 posts per day, down from 246 at the same time of year in 1996. There are many reasons for a decline in participation at a time when the net as a whole is growing. Many posts are off-topic spams, name calling, commercial advertisements, and debates on social issues crossposted from other groups, with only marginal application to parenting. A few topics take up a disproportionate amount of bandwidth, often in repetitive threads providing little productive discussion. Frequent, nasty flame wars make some posters hesitant to share their views. As a result, many parents find it frustrating and time-consuming to read the group, and the environment can be discouraging to newcomers, as new parents asking an innocent question (whether to breastfeed, how to get a baby to sleep) may find themselves the subject of a flame war. The proposed newsgroup will greatly enhance readability by eliminating crossposts and commercial announcements, using subject tags for high- volume topics, and requiring posts to fit accepted standards for width and length. The moderation policy will combine robomoderation and a moderation panel to set standards for civil discourse and provide guidance for newcomers, but also allow express posting. The group will provide a supportive atmosphere for newcomers to parenting and/or Usenet by inserting a trailer at the end of each post directing new readers to information about the group, including posting guidelines. This is not an attempt to moderate misc.kids, which will continue to exist for those who want to discuss issues related to children in an unmoderated forum. While other newsgroups and mailing lists devoted to specific aspects of parenting exist and will continue to serve particular niches, the proposed newsgroup will provide a widely propagated group focused on a broad range of parenting issues. CHARTER: misc.kids.moderated Misc.kids.moderated is an inclusive on-line community of parents and other people concerned with raising children. Participants are invited to engage in open discussion of parenting issues and exchange information about raising children, in an atmosphere of civility, friendship, and fun. Acceptable topics include but are not limited to questions about parenting issues, tips on various aspects of child care, and sharing of parenting experiences and insights. Unacceptable posts include but are not limited to commercial posts, website announcements, posts promoting or defending pedophilia, and cross-posted items (with exceptions for juvenile product recalls, RFDs and CFVs for parenting-related newsgroups, announcements for m.k. yearbook or m.k. picnics, etc.). Posters are encouraged to state their own views and share their experiences, but to refrain from making assumptions about the motivations of other parents. Posters are expected to maintain a basic tone of civility. Prohibited uncivil discourse includes but is not limited to name calling. Posters should avoid the derogatory labeling of child-rearing practices as "child abuse." Posters are asked to keep in mind that every family is different. Posts containing unsolicited advice questioning the right, worthiness, suitability and/or readiness of any individual (or members of any group) to parent are unacceptable in this newsgroup. If an individual chooses to post asking for advice on when or whether to have children, respondents should be careful to address their comments only to the original poster and not explicitly generalize to others in similar situations. Posts on topics that have been demonstrated to generate large volumes in existing misc.kids groups require a brief subject tag in brackets at the start of the subject line so that persons specifically seeking or avoiding those topics can filter them. For example, [CIRC] for circumcision, [BF] for breastfeeding, [SPANK] for spanking. The list of topics requiring a subject tag is maintained by moderators and updated in the current version of the posting guidelines. Posters are asked to include the tag when posting, or moderators will add an appropriate subject tag as required. Commercial Policy: Commercial postings are not acceptable, whether they are initiated by established businesses or enterprising individuals. Posters may include their business address and URL in a .sig of reasonable length (6 lines or less). Also, posts offering occasional "for-sale" used childcare items from individual posters are permitted; such posts should have an appropriate subject tag. Moderation Policy: Misc.kids.moderated shall employ a combination of human and robomoderation. 1) The robomoderator screens every article submitted to misc.kids.moderated. It returns any article that falls into any of the following categories, automatically sending a note explaining the reasons for rejection: A) Articles that contain original text of more than 75 characters per line B) Crossposted articles (exceptions should be sent directly to the moderators at an address listed in the posting guidelines) C) Articles that contain more than 400 lines D) Encoded binary files (except PGP and other short digital signatures) E) Other non-plaintext formats at the moderators' discretion F) Attachments to posts 2) The robomoderator searches each submission for certain trigger words, forwarding any submissions containing these trigger words to the panel of human moderators for review. The list of trigger words is maintained by the moderators, who modify the list as needed. Trigger words present in the text of messages may indicate off-topic posts, topics requiring a subject tag, or issues that have proven sensitive in the past (thus requiring attention by moderators). For example, "MAKE MONEY FAST" is likely to indicate an off-topic spam, "family bed" indicates a topic for which a subject tag is required, and "child abuse" indicates a sensitive topic. 3) Items with no trigger words are then checked to see whether the poster is on the "express posting list." Items submitted by posters not on the express posting list are referred for moderation by the panel, while items submitted by posters on the express posting list are posted without further moderation. Posters desiring to join the express poster list can register by sending e-mail to the administrative address explicitly stating that they agree to follow the posting guidelines. Posters who have not yet registered will receive an invitation to join after they have made four consecutive acceptable posts. Posters preferring never to use the express posting mechanism need not register. Express posters can designate a particular post for hand moderation by using a special keyword. In the case of a serious security breach on the express poster list, the moderators may choose to either suspend additions to express posting or switch the group to temporary hand moderation for a period of up to two weeks. 4) If a moderator accepts the article, it is posted to the newsgroup. If the moderator feels the article should be rejected, that moderator writes a comment explaining why and re-queues the article for review by a second moderator. If the second moderator concurs that the article should be rejected, that moderator adds another comment and returns the article to the poster. If the second moderator feels the post is acceptable, it is posted to the newsgroup. Any moderator who is unsure about the appropriateness of a post may poll the moderation board for additional opinions. 5) The moderation panel may cancel articles that have been posted to misc.kids.moderated due to forgery, errors in the moderation script, or other technical problems. In cases where a poster using the express-posting mechanism violates the posting guidelines, the moderators respond in a manner that seems appropriate to the level of offense: they may send a note of reprimand to the poster, issue a public disavowal that the article does not meet posting guidelines, and/or revoke express-posting status for an appropriate probationary period. In rare cases where an express- posted article contains flagrant violations of the charter, the offending article may be canceled by the request of three moderators, subsequently confirmed by a two-thirds vote of the available moderation board. Flagrant violations include posting private information (like phone numbers) where the victim objects or where there is evidence of hostile intent, newsgroup flood attacks or other net abuse, posts promoting pedophilia, and off-charter posts which, through apparent malice, circumvent the normal functioning of the robomoderator. Posters registering for express poster status agree to this provision, along with the group's other posting guidelines, as a condition of becoming an express poster. The moderators may, at their discretion, substitute or supplement other technology for cancels if and when such a new technology proves to be more practical. 6) The number of active moderators in the moderation panel is initially ten, with a minimum of 7 active moderators at any time. Additional moderators may be recruited from the readership as demand warrants. If a moderator wants to retire from the moderation panel, he or she must make a public statement at least one month prior to retirement so that a replacement moderator may be found. The moderation board consists of the moderation panel plus additional advisors, who are available to provide non-binding advice to any moderator who requests it while deciding the disposition of a borderline post. The number of advisors is no more than half of the number of moderators. When vacancies occur, anyone may volunteer to become a moderator or advisor with the consent of more than half of the current moderation panel. Moderators or advisors may be removed by a vote of two-thirds of the moderation panel. Moderators may request to be put on inactive status due to family or work demands, and one of the advisors may serve as a substitute moderator during the leave of absence. 7) All changes in policy are decided by a two-thirds majority of the moderation board. Before making any major changes, the moderators will conduct a two-week public comment period on the newsgroup at large. END CHARTER. MODERATOR INFO: misc.kids.moderated Moderator: Christopher Biow Moderator: Tom Farley Moderator: Nancygail Katzin-Nystrom Moderator: Robyn Kozierok Moderator: Catherine Lacey Moore Moderator: Tracy Lee Murphy Moderator: Robin Netherton Moderator: "Jennifer L. O'Neal" Moderator: Claire Petersky Moderator: Dawn Price Administrative contact address: mkm-request@ai.mit.edu Article submission address: mkm-submit@ai.mit.edu END MODERATOR INFO. IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES: READ THIS BEFORE VOTING Standard Guidelines for voting apply. One vote per person, one account per voter. Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker. Anonymous, forwarded or proxy votes are not valid. Votes mailed by WWW/HTML/CGI forms are considered to be anonymous votes. Vote counting is automated. Failure to follow these directions may mean that your vote does not get counted. If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three days contact the votetaker about the problem. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly. Duplicate votes are resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote. Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results post. The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of persons who would read a proposed newsgroup. Soliciting votes from disinterested parties defeats this purpose. Please do not distribute this CFV. If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted to news.announce.newgroups. Distributing pre-marked or otherwise edited copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud. When in doubt, ask the votetaker. HOW TO VOTE: Extract the ballot from the CFV by deleting everything before and after the "BEGINNING OF BALLOT" and "END OF BALLOT" lines. Don't worry about the spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your reply inserts. Please, DO NOT send the entire CFV back to me! Fill in the ballot as shown below. Please provide your REAL NAME and indicate your desired vote in the appropriate locations inside the ballot. When finished, MAIL the ballot to: < voting@uvv.stanford.edu > Just "replying" to this message should work, but check the "To:" line. Examples of how to properly indicate your vote: [ YES ] example.yes.vote [ NO ] example.no.vote [ ABSTAIN ] example.abstention [ CANCEL ] example.cancellation DO NOT modify, alter or delete any information in this ballot! If you do, the voting software will probably reject your ballot. If these instructions are unclear, please consult the Introduction to Usenet Voting or the Usenet Voting FAQ at http://www.stanford.edu/~neilc/uvv. ======== BEGINNING OF BALLOT: Delete everything before this line ======= .----------------------------------------------------------------------- | 2ND CALL FOR VOTES: misc.kids.moderated | Official Usenet Voting Ballot (Do not remove this line!) |----------------------------------------------------------------------- | Please provide your real name, or your vote may be rejected. Place | ONLY your name (ie. do NOT include your e-mail address or any other | information; ONLY your name) after the colon on the following line: Voter name: | Insert YES, NO, ABSTAIN, or CANCEL inside the brackets for each | newsgroup listed below (do not delete the newsgroup name): Your Vote Newsgroup --------- ----------------------------------------------------------- [ ] misc.kids.moderated (moderated) ======== END OF BALLOT: Delete everything after this line ============== DISTRIBUTION: Pointers directing readers to this CFV will be posted in these groups: alt.child-support alt.parenting.solutions alt.parenting.spanking alt.parenting.twins-triplets alt.parents-teens alt.support.diabetes.kids alt.support.foster-parents alt.support.single-parents alt.support.step-parents soc.adoption.parenting misc.kids.moderated Acknowledgement Bounce List - No need to revote ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No bounced acknowledgments at this time This CFV was created with uvpq 1.0 (Aug 14 1997). PQ datestamp: 970324 -- Voting address: voting@uvv.stanford.edu From neilc@stanford.edu Fri Nov 21 12:15:08 1997 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: Neil Crellin Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,misc.kids,misc.kids.breastfeeding,misc.kids.computer,misc.kids.consumers,misc.kids.health,misc.kids.info,misc.kids.pregnancy,misc.kids.vacation Subject: RESULT: misc.kids.moderated passes 290:56 Followup-To: news.groups Message-ID: <880143016.29309@isc.org> References: <870125779.3867@isc.org> <876780544.12764@isc.org> <878206844.14340@isc.org> <879270304.1031@isc.org> Supersedes: <879270304.1031@isc.org> Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org Archive-Name: misc.kids.moderated Date: Fri, 21 Nov 1997 20:10:20 GMT Lines: 622 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:970 RESULT moderated group misc.kids.moderated passes 290:56 There were 290 YES votes and 56 NO votes, for a total of 346 valid votes. There were 4 abstentions and 3 invalid ballots. For a group to pass, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO) votes. There must also be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes. A five day discussion period follows this announcement. If no serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter. Newsgroups line: misc.kids.moderated Parenting questions, ideas, and experiences. (Moderated) The voting period closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 20 Nov 1997. This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent. Proponent: Colleen Kay Porter Proponent: Claire Petersky Proponent: Lynn Diana Gazis-Sax Mentor: Kate Gregory Votetaker: Neil Crellin RATIONALE: misc.kids.moderated For the first half of 1997, misc.kids averaged 138 posts per day, down from 246 at the same time of year in 1996. There are many reasons for a decline in participation at a time when the net as a whole is growing. Many posts are off-topic spams, name calling, commercial advertisements, and debates on social issues crossposted from other groups, with only marginal application to parenting. A few topics take up a disproportionate amount of bandwidth, often in repetitive threads providing little productive discussion. Frequent, nasty flame wars make some posters hesitant to share their views. As a result, many parents find it frustrating and time-consuming to read the group, and the environment can be discouraging to newcomers, as new parents asking an innocent question (whether to breastfeed, how to get a baby to sleep) may find themselves the subject of a flame war. The proposed newsgroup will greatly enhance readability by eliminating crossposts and commercial announcements, using subject tags for high- volume topics, and requiring posts to fit accepted standards for width and length. The moderation policy will combine robomoderation and a moderation panel to set standards for civil discourse and provide guidance for newcomers, but also allow express posting. The group will provide a supportive atmosphere for newcomers to parenting and/or Usenet by inserting a trailer at the end of each post directing new readers to information about the group, including posting guidelines. This is not an attempt to moderate misc.kids, which will continue to exist for those who want to discuss issues related to children in an unmoderated forum. While other newsgroups and mailing lists devoted to specific aspects of parenting exist and will continue to serve particular niches, the proposed newsgroup will provide a widely propagated group focused on a broad range of parenting issues. CHARTER: misc.kids.moderated Misc.kids.moderated is an inclusive on-line community of parents and other people concerned with raising children. Participants are invited to engage in open discussion of parenting issues and exchange information about raising children, in an atmosphere of civility, friendship, and fun. Acceptable topics include but are not limited to questions about parenting issues, tips on various aspects of child care, and sharing of parenting experiences and insights. Unacceptable posts include but are not limited to commercial posts, website announcements, posts promoting or defending pedophilia, and cross-posted items (with exceptions for juvenile product recalls, RFDs and CFVs for parenting-related newsgroups, announcements for m.k. yearbook or m.k. picnics, etc.). Posters are encouraged to state their own views and share their experiences, but to refrain from making assumptions about the motivations of other parents. Posters are expected to maintain a basic tone of civility. Prohibited uncivil discourse includes but is not limited to name calling. Posters should avoid the derogatory labeling of child-rearing practices as "child abuse." Posters are asked to keep in mind that every family is different. Posts containing unsolicited advice questioning the right, worthiness, suitability and/or readiness of any individual (or members of any group) to parent are unacceptable in this newsgroup. If an individual chooses to post asking for advice on when or whether to have children, respondents should be careful to address their comments only to the original poster and not explicitly generalize to others in similar situations. Posts on topics that have been demonstrated to generate large volumes in existing misc.kids groups require a brief subject tag in brackets at the start of the subject line so that persons specifically seeking or avoiding those topics can filter them. For example, [CIRC] for circumcision, [BF] for breastfeeding, [SPANK] for spanking. The list of topics requiring a subject tag is maintained by moderators and updated in the current version of the posting guidelines. Posters are asked to include the tag when posting, or moderators will add an appropriate subject tag as required. Commercial Policy: Commercial postings are not acceptable, whether they are initiated by established businesses or enterprising individuals. Posters may include their business address and URL in a .sig of reasonable length (6 lines or less). Also, posts offering occasional "for-sale" used childcare items from individual posters are permitted; such posts should have an appropriate subject tag. Moderation Policy: Misc.kids.moderated shall employ a combination of human and robomoderation. 1) The robomoderator screens every article submitted to misc.kids.moderated. It returns any article that falls into any of the following categories, automatically sending a note explaining the reasons for rejection: A) Articles that contain original text of more than 75 characters per line B) Crossposted articles (exceptions should be sent directly to the moderators at an address listed in the posting guidelines) C) Articles that contain more than 400 lines D) Encoded binary files (except PGP and other short digital signatures) E) Other non-plaintext formats at the moderators' discretion F) Attachments to posts 2) The robomoderator searches each submission for certain trigger words, forwarding any submissions containing these trigger words to the panel of human moderators for review. The list of trigger words is maintained by the moderators, who modify the list as needed. Trigger words present in the text of messages may indicate off-topic posts, topics requiring a subject tag, or issues that have proven sensitive in the past (thus requiring attention by moderators). For example, "MAKE MONEY FAST" is likely to indicate an off-topic spam, "family bed" indicates a topic for which a subject tag is required, and "child abuse" indicates a sensitive topic. 3) Items with no trigger words are then checked to see whether the poster is on the "express posting list." Items submitted by posters not on the express posting list are referred for moderation by the panel, while items submitted by posters on the express posting list are posted without further moderation. Posters desiring to join the express poster list can register by sending e-mail to the administrative address explicitly stating that they agree to follow the posting guidelines. Posters who have not yet registered will receive an invitation to join after they have made four consecutive acceptable posts. Posters preferring never to use the express posting mechanism need not register. Express posters can designate a particular post for hand moderation by using a special keyword. In the case of a serious security breach on the express poster list, the moderators may choose to either suspend additions to express posting or switch the group to temporary hand moderation for a period of up to two weeks. 4) If a moderator accepts the article, it is posted to the newsgroup. If the moderator feels the article should be rejected, that moderator writes a comment explaining why and re-queues the article for review by a second moderator. If the second moderator concurs that the article should be rejected, that moderator adds another comment and returns the article to the poster. If the second moderator feels the post is acceptable, it is posted to the newsgroup. Any moderator who is unsure about the appropriateness of a post may poll the moderation board for additional opinions. 5) The moderation panel may cancel articles that have been posted to misc.kids.moderated due to forgery, errors in the moderation script, or other technical problems. In cases where a poster using the express-posting mechanism violates the posting guidelines, the moderators respond in a manner that seems appropriate to the level of offense: they may send a note of reprimand to the poster, issue a public disavowal that the article does not meet posting guidelines, and/or revoke express-posting status for an appropriate probationary period. In rare cases where an express- posted article contains flagrant violations of the charter, the offending article may be canceled by the request of three moderators, subsequently confirmed by a two-thirds vote of the available moderation board. Flagrant violations include posting private information (like phone numbers) where the victim objects or where there is evidence of hostile intent, newsgroup flood attacks or other net abuse, posts promoting pedophilia, and off-charter posts which, through apparent malice, circumvent the normal functioning of the robomoderator. Posters registering for express poster status agree to this provision, along with the group's other posting guidelines, as a condition of becoming an express poster. The moderators may, at their discretion, substitute or supplement other technology for cancels if and when such a new technology proves to be more practical. 6) The number of active moderators in the moderation panel is initially ten, with a minimum of 7 active moderators at any time. Additional moderators may be recruited from the readership as demand warrants. If a moderator wants to retire from the moderation panel, he or she must make a public statement at least one month prior to retirement so that a replacement moderator may be found. The moderation board consists of the moderation panel plus additional advisors, who are available to provide non-binding advice to any moderator who requests it while deciding the disposition of a borderline post. The number of advisors is no more than half of the number of moderators. When vacancies occur, anyone may volunteer to become a moderator or advisor with the consent of more than half of the current moderation panel. Moderators or advisors may be removed by a vote of two-thirds of the moderation panel. Moderators may request to be put on inactive status due to family or work demands, and one of the advisors may serve as a substitute moderator during the leave of absence. 7) All changes in policy are decided by a two-thirds majority of the moderation board. Before making any major changes, the moderators will conduct a two-week public comment period on the newsgroup at large. END CHARTER. MODERATOR INFO: misc.kids.moderated Moderator: Christopher Biow Moderator: Tom Farley Moderator: Nancygail Katzin-Nystrom Moderator: Robyn Kozierok Moderator: Catherine Lacey Moore Moderator: Tracy Lee Murphy Moderator: Robin Netherton Moderator: "Jennifer L. O'Neal" Moderator: Claire Petersky Moderator: Dawn Price Administrative contact address: mkm-request@ai.mit.edu Article submission address: mkm-submit@ai.mit.edu END MODERATOR INFO. misc.kids.moderated Final Voter list Voted YES ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ d.lear@cchs.usyd.edu.au Dana Lear amgraham@cygnus.uwa.edu.au Anita Graham LChandle@aca.gov.au Linda Chandler hmj@abelard.apana.org.au Helen Johnston phublou@innet.be Patrick Hublou AlexBruzzone@pigeon.carleton.ca Alex_Bruzzone louise@cyberus.ca Louise djohnson@direct.ca Michelle Johnson swharton@netcom.ca Sandra Wharton kristaz@nortel.ca Krista Zeidler eviatar@ibd.nrc.ca Hadass Eviatar ag954@chebucto.ns.ca Christine Linders ah072@chebucto.ns.ca Judith Mary Giles ai132@chebucto.ns.ca Joanne Cook ai517@chebucto.ns.ca Bev Levy bonny@chebucto.ns.ca Bonny Lee craven@sympatico.ca jean fraser lauria.blackwell@usask.ca Lauria Blackwell chulls@kingcong.uwaterloo.ca Carol Hulls shielFILTER@SSCL.UWO.CA Suzanne Shiel spouliot@videotron.ca Isabelle Cyr georgako@uni2a.unige.ch Josephine Georgakopoulos ichudov@algebra.com Igor Chudov Dana_Netherton@mail.amsinc.com Dana Netherton ACLAVERN6@aol.com antoinette lavern apiarian@aol.com Jennifer Farmer Aviendha@aol.com Diana NewtonWood banty@aol.com Karen Lynne Holloway BarbLuongo@aol.com Barb Luongo bellykaat@aol.com Kathryn L. Mc Laughlin CoralieJA@aol.com Coralie J. Allen FarleySue@aol.com Sue Farley JMW4007@aol.com Johnny M Watts, Jr LFabry@aol.com Laura Preston MarlasueG@aol.com Marla Sue Greenspan MaryPFox@aol.com Mary Fox MLG7875@aol.com Mary Lou Gloudemans NinaSalk@aol.com Nina Salkin nlago@aol.com Nancy Lago OXYGEN15L@aol.com Jenny Dunigan TerriLwest@aol.com Terri Winsor Zzzil@aol.com Liz Farrell sgs@mini.skynet.att.com Sarah Schwartz smithd@blkbox.com Kira Smith jvaugha@colsa.com Jenny Vaughan Teri.Burris@COMPAQ.com Teri Burris Diana.Grupposo@COMPAQ.com Diana M. Grupposo Craig.Moore@COMPAQ.com Moore, Craig peter@foghorn.contex.com Peter Davis kucera@muirwood.convex.com Julie Kucera pjanz@courierpub.com Patricia Janczura ljensen@cray.com Laura Jensen rth@cray.com Ruth Holliday sgage@cray.com Sheryl Gage dolson@cruzio.com Laura Dolson ltitus@ctron.com Lisa Titus khan@yield.enet.dec.com Azmat Khan robin@dgsys.com Robin Netherton Vicki.L.Sadowski@usa.dupont.com Vicki L. Sadowski fike@erols.com Sarah Eastman biow@ezmort.com Christopher Biow ramirez@frii.com Susan Ramirez drmom@geocities.com Muriel Hykes wardells@globedirect.com Heather Wardell petersky@halcyon.com Claire Petersky curtis_whalen@hotmail.com Curtis (Jewell) Whalen joneshenry@hotmail.com Henry Jones sue@cdc.hp.com Sue Blockstein l_stroyan@hpcnd.cnd.hp.com Lisa Stroyan deleon@cat.hpl.hp.com Laura de Leon lkehne@austin.ibm.com Laura Kehne markcc@us.ibm.com Mark C. Chu-Carroll debbie@icus.com Debbie Tropiano Ariel_Shattan@ccm2.hf.intel.com Ariel Shattan almacdee@interaccess.com Allan and Liz MacDonald swk@intermetrics.com Sze-Wen Kuo hrose@rocza.kei.com Helen Rose jen&dan@klau.com Jennifer Klau dedek@lexis-nexis.com Michael Dedek margaret.remove.mills@lexis-nexis.com Margaret Mills nknauft@lucent.com Nancy Knauft tatar@lucent.com Sherry Tatar CShavit@MagicSquare.com Chuck Shavit cindy@mich.com Cindy Walzak nolavv@MICROSOFT.com Nola Van Vugt SuzSy@microsoft.com Suzanne Sylliaasen amyscott@mindspring.com Amy Scott chuckhoffmann@mindspring.com Chuck Hoffmann moorefam@mindspring.com Beth Moore nursemom@mindspring.com Lisa Cranwell-Bruce DRosenberg@exchange.ml.com Dale Rosenberg ruth@myri.com Ruth Sivilotti ckoster@neosoft.com Carol Koster ejmam@netcom.com Beth Mitcham eridani+spam@netcom.com Belinda Bryan gazissax@netcom.com Lynn Diana Gazis-Sax bunttfb@ix.netcom.com Kara Buntin dianew@ix.netcom.com Diane A. Wells dougob@ix.netcom.com Doug O'Brien w_martin@ix.netcom.com Theresa Martin jim_l@ix.killspam.netcom.com Jim Lutz clm@netrix.com Catherine Moore mtw@anubis.network.com Marguerite Watson woodcl@newportnet.com Claire Wood peads@nilenet.com P. Eads abrown@openmarket.com Amy E. Brown hansen@openmarket.com Richard Hansen JGELHAUS@us.oracle.com Jenny Gelhausen tindall@panix.com Bruce Tindall monica@predge.com Monica Russ jhefner@premierelink.com Jacqueline Hefner lmorgan@primenet.com Lon Morgan strianta@primenet.com Spiros Triantafyllopoulos QLDT36A@prodigy.com Laura Kehrer Emileane sherry@diga.relief.com Sherry Feiler bunnie@riverstyx.com Heidi Kleppe sasmgr@unx.sas.com Merry Rabb banenospam@sirius.com Kristin Gallaty tom@softedge.com Tom Murphy tracy@softedge.com Tracy Lee Murphy farley@spont.com Tom Farley laur@hermes.sra.com Lauren Halverson owen@ai.sri.com Elizabeth O. Bratt amcnulty@world.std.com Amy McNulty kathynv@world.std.com Kathy Nicklas-Varraso Lisa.Curhan@East.Sun.COM Lisa Curhan amyr@austx.tandem.com Amy Moseley Rupp edr@austx.tandem.com Ed Rupp day_kevran@tandem.com Kevran Day davej@teleport.com Dave Johnsen abbyfg@tezcat.com Abby Franquemont marion10@huitzilo.tezcat.com Marion Baumgarten mlmoffit@tir.com Lori Moffit lhill@kaitain.sp.trw.com Lance Hill cpersing@advtech.uswest.com Cheryl Persinger vcorlew@advtech.uswest.com Vicky Okeson yuval@valor.com Yuval Kfir willmac@vvm.com William MacKinnon xanthian@well.com Kent Paul Dolan berry@wolfenet.com Julie Berry krogers@xmission.com Peggy Rogers eahcsc@spidernet.com.cy Erika Hargadine Ekkehard.Uthke@gmx.de Ekkehard Uthke naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de Christian Weisgerber taner@cadlab.tu-berlin.de H. Taner seemc000@goofy.zdv.Uni-Mainz.de Christine Seemann hmccull@alleg.edu Helen McCullough michelle@helix.medbioc.arizona.edu Michelle Thatcher peggy@linmax.sao.arizona.edu Peggy Groner shap.wolf@*spamguard*.asu.edu Shap Wolf myr@uclink4.berkeley.edu Myriam Godfrey Alan_Browning@brown.edu Alan Browning clare@it.bu.edu Clare E. Shawcross jennie@IUS5.IUS.CS.CMU.EDU Jennifer Kay crowley@stat.cmu.edu Evelyn Crowley jennifer@saclink.csus.edu Jennifer L. O'Neal jborin@coyote.csusm.edu Jacqueline Borin pamela.patton@drake.edu Pamela M. Patton dawn.price@drake.edu Dawn Price brook006@mc.duke.edu Laura E. Brooks vicki@mathcs.emory.edu Victoria Powers katzinna@HUGSE1.HARVARD.EDU Nancygail Katzin-Nystrom kiernan@koa.IFA.Hawaii.Edu Elaine Kiernan Olson mcarter@iastate.edu Margaret Carter mcginnr@iastate.edu Ryan McGinnis pmwalden@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu Pam Walden tdorai-berry@MAIL.PRESS.JHU.EDU Tara Dorai-Berry maria@kestrel.edu Maria Pryce marie@ai.mit.edu M. Lamb robyn@ai.mit.edu Robyn Kozierok noa@alum.mit.edu Noa M. Rensing gibbsm@ll.mit.edu Margaret Gibbs mevard@media.mit.edu michele evard mallentu@nas.edu Marla Allentuck mpeskin@lynx.dac.neu.edu Marjorie Peskin morphis@niuhep.physics.niu.edu Robert I. Morphis willis@niuhep.physics.niu.edu Suzanne Willis dbrowdy@nwu.edu David Browdy sherri@cse.ogi.edu Sherri Shulman kj@cis.ohio-state.edu Kathy Johnson clago@princeton.edu Colleen Lago cphillip@MATH.Purdue.EDU Chris Phillips lmetlay@acu.pathology.rochester.edu Leon A. Metlay ncooper@wahoo.sjsu.edu Noreen Cooper Heavlin j-wildenthal@tamu.edu John Mark Wildenthal X215MD@TAMVM1.TAMU.EDU MaryBeth Delphia bosshard@bcm.tmc.edu Terrlyn Bosshard pburch@bcm.tmc.edu Paula Burch rick@bcm.tmc.edu Richard Miller js@eecs.tulane.edu Jan Silbermann szwinded@ucdavis.edu Wendy Schreiber MSanders@nso1.uchc.edu Mary Melinda Sanders lpinder@gsbalum.uchicago.edu Lisa Pinder pitesky@mira.ASTRO.Ucla.EDU Jo Pitesky buchthal@ucla.edu Opal Vanessa Buchthal sdp@nervm.nerdc.ufl.edu Sanford D. Porter bentsen@uiuc.edu Molly Bentsen asterian@eecs.umich.edu Andrew Sterian ahall@remus.cs.uml.edu Andrew Hall kupstas@cs.unc.edu Eileen Kupstas Soo ddkilmon@email.unc.edu Deena Kilmon jill-jd@email.unc.edu Jill D. Moore lmorton@unm.edu Linda Morton dbowie@mail.sas.upenn.edu David Bowie nklasinc@whale.st.usm.edu Natasa Klasinc-Loncar tmesser@utdallas.edu Toni Messer pneal@maxwell.ee.washington.edu Pam Neal avery@u.washington.edu Avery Tillett Ke bwilliam@u.washington.edu Barbara Williams kmmckaig@u.washington.edu Kim McKaig al715@yfn.ysu.edu Tina M. Wood jmi@sophia.inria.fr Janet Bertot john+vote@tradoc.fr John Wilcock jhall@dra.hmg.gb Jayne Hall carvalho@ptolemy-ethernet.arc.nasa.gov Robert E. Carvalho tam@silk.gsfc.nasa.gov Thomas McGlynn jpc@drum.msfc.nasa.gov J. Porter Clark szenzero@alf.tel.hr Snjezana Sevo-Zenzerovic orits@cs.huji.ac.il Orit Shacham chris@aimnet.net Christopher Robin Zimmerman critter@ais.net ann bilbrey towne@apk.net Charlie Towne rsuntag@att.net Rick Suntag lee.ballard@worldnet.att.net Carolyn Ballard thevckrs@worldnet.att.net Helen Vickers scavell@bellsouth.net Shannon Stelly Cavell john@cache.net John Visser leveq@capcon.net Anne LeVeque davidr@charm.net Deborah Rice dwittich@concentric.net Doug Wittich phardie@cyberatl.net Cynthia Hardie DIXON@POP.DATABLAST.NET Ross Schennum erics@access.digex.net Eric Simon lnilsen@gamewood.net Liz Nilsen kpluta@gte.net Kay Pluta EWERT@ibm.net Leanne Culshaw-Ewert peck@igs.net Karen Peckover cadurret@tdo.infi.net Cindy Durrett jenalex@magicnet.net Jennifer Clabaugh emolson@maui.net Maynard Olson matttrahan@ecsu.campus.mci.net Matt Trahan sbridges@unca.campus.mci.net Robin G. Bridges oglesbee@megsinet.net Daniel M. Oglesbee Laura@netexp.net Laura J Fenzl sgm@netonecom.net Susan Miles mothra@monster.island.one.net DeadLock the Feral (NYAR!) jamiet@onslowonline.net Jamie Tiernan bwbadeno@pacbell.net Sarah-Ann Bishop Badenoch lzell@ptd.net Linda Zell Randall shannah@rahul.net Teri Miller bezoar@rochelle.net Barbara Struven betsys@shore.net Elizabeth Schwartz zenda@smart.net Susan Cohen ixl@thecia.net Charles M. Kozierok almquat@tiac.net Dana Curhan giesewpm@tiac.net Bruce Giese noirisva@tiac.net Iris Davis Karen.Page@VALLEY.NET Karen Page eyecare@west.net Larry Bickford irina@rempt.xs2all.nl Irina Rempt boud@rempt.xs4all.nl Boudewijn Rempt cindy@nethelp.no Cindy Kandolf faigin@guinan.aero.org Daniel P Faigin cporter@afn.org Colleen Kay Porter rufinus@e-math.ams.org J Rufinus dlb@MATH.AMS.ORG Debby Bolton bmonsell@cpcug.org Brian C. Monsell dana@dreamchaser.org Dana Lindquist nat@nataa.fr.eu.org Nat Maka hfung@lerami.lerctr.org Henry Fung finn@nasw.org Robert Finn scs@newview.org sue salem mcooper@rain.org Michele Cooper bivey@sbschool.org Bill Ivey andreah@utj.org Andrea Herrera fma@mail.telepac.pt Fernando Algarvio kulikaus@ena-east.ericsson.se Joe Kulikauskas Patrik.Palm@era.ericsson.se Patrik Palm Eeva.Munter@lmf.ericsson.se Eeva Munter Jessica.Nilsson@sa.erisoft.se Jessica Nilsson kris@aimless.demon.co.uk Chris 'The Coca Cola Kid' Keen andrew@erlenstar.demon.co.uk Andrew Gierth penny@frodo.demon.co.uk Penny Gaines Spanner@larrrrrd.demon.co.uk Chris Hayes sgwm@maitreya.demon.co.uk sgwm dweller@ramtops.demon.co.uk Doug Weller sharon.sproat@ffei.co.uk Sharon A. Sproat peter@harlequin.co.uk Peter Westlake sfarley@ed.co.sanmateo.ca.us Sandra M Farley lcasto@freenet.columbus.oh.us Lawanna Casto Voted NO ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ dformosa@st.nepean.uws.edu.au David Formosa jasmine@fl.net.au Jasmine Taylor jeffery.hunt@ns.sympatico.ca Jeffery D. Hunt gbacon@adtran.com Greg Bacon AngelK38@aol.com desiegel@aol.com David E. Siegel kimdv@best.com Kim DeVaughn stainles@bga.com Dwight Brown stef@cat-and-dragon.com Stef Jones booda@datasync.com Martin H. Booda lcs@NOSPAMzk3.dec.com Larry Smith d@idiom.com d spcoltri@io.com Steve Coltrin djed@juno.com Geronimo Mockingbird mote@juno.com Motros M. Banjiheshlamp eburnette@mindspring.com Burnette olav@viking.mv.com Olav Nieuwejaar aahz@netcom.com Aahz saitta@nettaxi.com Michael J. Saitta zamfir@nettaxi.com Zamfir varnish@phil-collins.com Rembrandt Sullivan jimrtex@pipeline.com Jim Riley steiners@primenet.com Jason Steiner felonyphil@rocketmail.com Phil Oliver kpascoe@sprintmail.com Kathy Pascoe David.Robinson@Eng.Sun.COM David Robinson mcduff@telestream.com Bill McMahon chris.jacobs@template.com Chris Jacobs joele@tminet.com Joel Ehrlich hkt@wwa.com Henrietta Thomas scott@wwwebworld.com Scott Smith _bedwarm@yahoo.com (Bobby Tendinitis?) Robert Manion jackmccoy@yahoo.com Jack McCoy wrean@cco.caltech.edu Patricia Wrean rms39@columbia.edu Russell Steinthal holberm1@alpha.lasalle.edu Marc Holbert patl@cag.lcs.mit.edu Patrick J. LoPresti jkramer1@swarthmore.edu Joshua Kramer heritage@umd5.umd.edu Richard Heritage jeffford@cs.utexas.edu Jeff Ford activist@clark.net J. Rachael Hamlet kfamily@mail.enter.net Phil Thomas trumbore@enter.net Trumbore maskol@gaianet.net bmailman@hooked.net Brian Mailman ebehr@internode.net Eve M. Behr matt@brain.mics.net Matt Miller sjohnson@pop-a-wheelie.midwest.net Sam Johnson marquez@pacbell.net Aaron Marquez red@rahul.net Red stanczak@softhome.net Martin Stanczak AlanLivingston@acm.org Alan J. Livingston arisian@eyrie.org Bruce "No-Retromoderation" Baugh jonivar@ph.ed.ac.uk jon ivar skullerud mayalld@it.postoffice.co.uk dave mayall erigbadj@teen.co.uk Eric Badger Abstained ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ guymacon@deltanet.com Guy Macon marilyn@tesser.com Marilyn Walker mue@gsf.de Bernhard Muenzer gglaser@minn.net Ginger Glaser Invalid votes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ hebrides@hempseed.com Pepe H. Shaffelson ! Invalid address (Bobby Tendinitis?) donna_k@texmed.org Donna B. Kinney ! Invalid address news@nospam.demon.co.uk Andi Carey ! Ineligible address -- Neil Crellin, UVV