From lear@turbo.bio.net Wed Dec 31 23:59:59 1969 Control: newgroup news/news.announce.newgroups Newsgroups: news/news.announce.newgroups Path: bionet!lear From: lear@turbo.bio.net (Eliot Lear) Subject: newgroup news/news.announce.newgroups Approved: lear@turbo.bio.net Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1969 23:59:59 GMT Message-ID: Comments: this header was wholly fictionally created on 7 Jan 1993 by tale@uunet.uu.net [1] The purpose of news.announce.newgroups is to provide an arena for announcements of changes or consideration of changes in the namespace we know as the list of newsgroups. Such changes include, but are not limited to creation, deletion, and change in moderation status of a newsgroup. [2] Submissions to news.announce.newgroups may be made for any distribution, provided information on how to receive the related newsgroups is made available upon request, and that the newsgroups are in fact available, either free of cost, or commercially. [3] All submissions must comply with the policies or guidelines of the distribution of the message. The moderator's first responsibility is to the readers of news.announce.newgroups. As such, he will attempt to provide as high a level of consistancy as he can. [4] All submissions must be announcements- replies to messages posted to news.announce.newgroups will be rejected. [5] All articles approved for posting will have the date changed to the time of approval, and the header "Followups-to: news.groups" added to the message headers. [6] Extraneous headers shall be removed from an article before it is approved. Such headers include, but are not limited to "X-VMS-To", "Received", "To", and "Cc". [6] The subject of submissions should be one of the following forms: "CALL FOR DISCUSSION: name.of.newsgroup" "CALL FOR VOTES: name.of.newsgroup" "RESULTS: name.of.newsgroup [passes/fails]" "CREATION: name.of.newsgroup" Messages that do not at least contain the name of the newsgroup will have their subject line reformatted. [7] Extraneous information appended to a submission (such as a .signature file) may be trimmed or removed at the discretion of the moderator, based on either length or content. [8] The moderator reserves the right to correct blatant spelling errors in a submission. [9] Submissions that do not conform to this charter, but do conform to the charter of another group may be posted to the latter by the moderator. If the other group was not in the list of newsgroups in the "Newsgroups" header line and the newsgroup was not news.groups the moderator will inform the poster of the action. [10] Other submissions not conforming to this charter shall be rejcted, and returned to the poster with the reason for rejection and, if possible, a corrective course of action. [11] Authors of rejected articles may require the moderator to post the rejected submission in question provided that the message satisfies paragraphs 1, 2, and 4 of this charter. The moderator will annotate at the top of the message the reasons for its rejection. [12] The moderator may at his discretion not approve a message, pending a reply from the poster to queries regarding the content of a posting. [13] Submissions to news.announce.newgroups shall be posted no later than one week from the time of receipt on the moderator's machine, excluding holidays. Any exceptions to this rule shall be announced as an administartive message to the newsgroup. [14] For fastest turnaround, messages should be posted to as close to but not after Friday 5:00PM -0700 of a given week. Charter for news.announce.newgroups last changed: Tue Nov 13 22:52:54 PST 1990 The purpose of news.announce.newgroups is to announce changes in the namespace we know as newsgroups. In addition, the group is used to announce proposed changes so that the greater USENET community can have input into the process. In general, only the following types of postings will be approved by the moderator: o Announcement of the creation of a new newsgroup. When a group is properly created (which is to say that the advocates have followed appropriate procedures), it is reasonable to announce the new group as accessible to the world. o Call for discussion of a new group. Required when the advocate wishes to see a group created based on the Guidelines for Newsgroup Creation. A call for discussion announces that someone would like to consider creating a group for a particular topic. o Call for votes. Again required by the Guidelines for Newsgroup Creation, a call for votes is a request for participation by the community to decide whether a newsgroup should be created, renamed, or whatever, acted on as specified in the particular message. Calls for votes should occur after calls for discussion. o Vote results. Vote results should contain a list of voters sorted by how they voted, a tally, and what that tally means (eg. based on this vote, the action shall occur). o Mailing list announcements. Traditionally, a mailing list is the first step towards a newsgroup. Thus the announcement of a new mailing list could be considered the first step in the newsgroup creation process. o Informational messages from moderator that pertain to this group. Whenever a message is posted to news.announce.newgroups, there must be a Followup-to header in the message, redirecting posted replies to some group other than news.announce.newgroups. If one is not supplied, one will be added by the moderator, redirecting followups to news.groups. Messages will be rejected from news.announce.newgroups when they fall in to one of the following categories: [1] The message is out of place - including followups, votes, etc. [2] The posting would cause significant amounts of confusion to the rest of the net so that positive results could be meaningless or contradictory. [3] The message is incoherent. If the moderator can't understand what the individual is trying to communicate, many others won't either. [4] The moderator believes that a person is trying to do something inconsistent with the rules he or she is using to create the group in question (for example call for a vote without discussion). With regard to [4], if the person insists that the article be posted after it has been rejected, the moderator will post the message. The moderator may, at his option, place a note at the top of the message explaining his misgivings, or refer the reader to a message containing such misgivings. Here are some things to remember when you want to post something to news.announce.newgroups: o Feel free to mail the moderator in advance with any questions you might have. Moderators are chosen from among the most experienced people on the net. Potential posters are encouraged to take advantage of that experience. o The moderator may send your message back because of some possible problem that might diminish the chances of you accomplishing your goal. In general, the moderator will suggest a corrective course of action. You can choose it or not. Feel free to ask ``Why?'' at any point with regard to his suggestions, if the original explanation wasn't enough. Creation or reorganization of newsgroups is sometimes discussed for years before action is accomplished. In addition, moderation of the news.announce.newgroups group is fitted into the moderator's working life. Be prepared to practice lots of patience with moderation and other delays in getting a newsgroup created. A week's delay in posting an article is normal and should be part of your planning. Moderators take vacations like everyone else, so longer delays are possible though not frequent. o If you intend to use the Guidelines for Newsgroup Creation, please make sure you are familiar with them beforehand. If you have any questions about them, please feel free to contact the moderator. Although the moderator attempts to spot problems before posting messages, the system administrators who choose whether to abide by your proposal are the final arbiters. If you disagree with something the moderator has done or not done, he would be happy to discuss his reasoning with you via EMail. If you still are not satisfied with his explanations, please feel free to bring the topic up in news.groups. From news@compass.com Thu May 23 15:11:11 1991 Path: rpi!think.com!compass!news From: news@compass.com (news) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups.ctl Subject: newgroup news.announce.newgroups moderated Message-ID: <5842@compass.com> Date: 23 May 91 16:53:40 GMT Control: newgroup news.announce.newgroups moderated Distribution: world Organization: Compass, Inc., Wakefield, MA Lines: 1 Approved: news@compass.com Calls for newgroups & announcements of same. (Moderated) From mat@mole-end.UUCP Sun Jul 7 01:28:43 1991 Path: rpi!usc!cs.utexas.edu!uwm.edu!linac!att!att!westmark!mole-end!mat From: mat@mole-end.UUCP (Mark A Terribile) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups.ctl Subject: newgroup news.announce.newgroups Message-ID: <587@mole-end.UUCP> Date: 6 Jul 91 06:14:24 GMT Control: newgroup news.announce.newgroups Organization: mole-end--private system. admin: mole-end!newtnews Lines: 0 Approved: mat@mole-end.UUCP From kre@munnari.oz.au Sun Jul 7 02:10:18 1991 Path: rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!mips!spool.mu.edu!uunet!munnari.oz.au!cs.mu.OZ.AU!kre From: kre@munnari.oz.au Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups.ctl Subject: newgroup news.announce.newgroups moderated Message-ID: <9118816.12658@mulga.cs.mu.OZ.AU> Date: 7 Jul 91 06:05:34 GMT Control: newgroup news.announce.newgroups moderated Sender: kre@cs.mu.OZ.AU (Robert Elz) Organization: Computer Science, University of Melbourne, Australia Lines: 1 Approved: kre@munnari.oz.au Undo mess caused by mat@mole-end.UUCP From moraes@cs.toronto.edu Mon Jul 8 09:48:43 1991 Path: rpi!usc!cs.utexas.edu!news-server.csri.toronto.edu!un-replyable!moraes From: moraes@cs.toronto.edu (Mark Moraes) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups.ctl Subject: newgroup news.announce.newgroups moderated Message-ID: Date: 8 Jul 91 13:29:06 GMT Control: newgroup news.announce.newgroups moderated Lines: 5 Approved: moraes@cs.toronto.edu This group should be moderated, the newgroup sent by mat@mole-end.uucp (message ids of the form <5??@mole-end.UUCP> dated Jul 6, 1991) may have unmoderated this on some systems. Mark. From steve@gandalf.UMCS.Maine.EDU Sun Apr 26 12:23:47 1992 Path: rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!decwrl!bu.edu!dartvax!mars.caps.maine.edu!gandalf!steve From: steve@gandalf.UMCS.Maine.EDU (Steve E. Goldsmith) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups.ctl Subject: newgroup news.announce.newgroups moderated Message-ID: <17367@gandalf.UMCS.Maine.EDU> Date: 26 Apr 92 01:37:38 GMT Control: newgroup news.announce.newgroups moderated Distribution: umcs Organization: University of Maine Department of Computer Science Lines: 0 Approved: steve@gandalf.UMCS.Maine.EDU From steve@gandalf.UMCS.Maine.EDU Sun Apr 26 12:53:44 1992 Path: rpi!usenet.coe.montana.edu!decwrl!bu.edu!dartvax!mars.caps.maine.edu!gandalf!steve From: steve@gandalf.UMCS.Maine.EDU (Steve E. Goldsmith) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups.ctl Subject: newgroup news.announce.newgroups Message-ID: <16425@gandalf.UMCS.Maine.EDU> Date: 26 Apr 92 00:15:59 GMT Control: newgroup news.announce.newgroups Distribution: umcs Organization: University of Maine Department of Computer Science Lines: 0 Approved: steve@gandalf.UMCS.Maine.EDU From tale@uunet.uu.net Mon Apr 27 00:37:23 1992 Control: newgroup news.announce.newgroups moderated Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups.ctl Path: rpi!zaphod.mps.ohio-state.edu!sdd.hp.com!decwrl!gossip.pyramid.com!uunet!tale From: tale@uunet.uu.net (David C Lawrence) Subject: newgroup news.announce.newgroups moderated Message-ID: <1992Apr27.033148.29322@uunet.uu.net> Organization: UUNET Technologies, Inc Distribution: umcs Date: Mon, 27 Apr 1992 03:31:48 GMT Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net Lines: 9 This group was inadvertently changed to unmoderated by a leaked newgroup message from gandalf.umcs.maine.edu. It is properly a moderated newsgroup. This control message is posted to the same group and distribution as the erroneous one. David Lawrence moderator, news.announce.newgroups From root@nntpserver.chevron.com Wed Mar 29 18:06:49 1995 Control: newgroup news.announce.newgroups moderated Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups Path: uunet!newstf01.news.aol.com!newsjunkie.ans.net!news.lahabra.chevron.com!nntpserver.chevron.com!root From: root@nntpserver.chevron.com (System PRIVILEGED Account) Subject: newgroup news.announce.newgroups moderated Message-ID: <1995Mar29.224805.15843@nntpserver.chevron.com> Organization: chevron Distribution: chevron Date: Wed, 29 Mar 1995 22:48:05 GMT Approved: root@usho1d.chevron.com Lines: 2 Xref: uunet control:1833822 Creating moderated group news.announce.newgroups by root@usho1d.chevron.com From tale@uunet.uu.net Mon Oct 21 16:45:56 1996 Path: uunet!in3.uu.net!gergs_bane.org!anon From: tale@uunet.uu.net Newsgroups: control Subject: cmsg rmgroup news.announce.newgroups Date: 21 Oct 1996 02:43:32 Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: Control: rmgroup news.announce.newgroups Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net Lines: 1 Xref: uunet control.rmgroup:7134 news.* reorganization From tale@uunet.uu.net Mon Oct 21 16:46:00 1996 Path: uunet!in3.uu.net!gergs_bane.org!anon From: tale@uunet.uu.net Newsgroups: control Subject: cmsg rmgroup news.announce.newgroups Date: 21 Oct 1996 02:43:36 Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: Control: rmgroup news.announce.newgroups Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net Lines: 1 Xref: uunet control.rmgroup:7135 news.* reorganization From tale@uunet.uu.net Mon Oct 21 17:35:02 1996 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: tale@uunet.uu.net (David C Lawrence) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups Subject: cmsg newgroup news.announce.newgroups moderated Control: newgroup news.announce.newgroups moderated Approved: newgroups-request@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: <845933513.15553@uunet.uu.net> Date: Mon, 21 Oct 1996 21:31:53 GMT Lines: 7 X-Info: ftp://ftp.uu.net/networking/news/misc/pgpcontrol/README.html ftp://ftp.uu.net/networking/news/misc/pgpcontrol/README X-PGP-Sig: 2.7 Subject,Control,Message-ID,Date,From,Sender iQCVAgUBMmvrycJdOtO4janBAQH/fQP/YC3d7grz7dYV7Fv28xu53xkG55DQP1UE Vyt6FbjgGf0Ud9Mlh26wSJnBAKUzAVT6IjVedLAjb7mu69T09E/iCBnIA2zyR2fb of5ji8fPAjBVnySa9faHstYrkLL/NdUgPMnv0yl5OTz9aDikWee+ef8i7KZtEmVD pnpy+d61YxA= =c3BL Xref: uunet control.newgroup:17842 news.announce.newgroups is a moderated newsgroup. 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(Moderated) From tale@uunet.uu.net Mon Oct 28 17:40:07 1996 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: tale@uunet.uu.net (David C Lawrence) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups Subject: cmsg newgroup news.announce.newgroups moderated Control: newgroup news.announce.newgroups moderated Approved: newgroups-request@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: <846542105.1586@uunet.uu.net> Date: Mon, 28 Oct 1996 22:35:05 GMT Lines: 7 X-Info: ftp://ftp.uu.net/networking/news/misc/pgpcontrol/README.html ftp://ftp.uu.net/networking/news/misc/pgpcontrol/README X-PGP-Sig: 2.7 Subject,Control,Message-ID,Date,From,Sender iQCVAgUBMnU1GsJdOtO4janBAQGs2wP+Nsg7z8dLZ1nj7rFfSQDHYJ1VHUaYuQys StOiQLdCQ3UlfRYJxLpYD7FcGerCiXc+wZY9ArgrOJRdEuUAq0oYyy8ljOLT6Xkw j6xIZV3R5nD8/xyEgHbDLGmNxQ36GpYoRSRSAtHKV9hlNqLMutfqubNprZCOyMak fVPjqHcFKxE= =ZLxC Xref: uunet control.newgroup:18072 news.announce.newgroups is a moderated newsgroup. 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(Moderated) From tale@uunet.uu.net Sat Nov 9 19:05:04 1996 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: tale@uunet.uu.net (David C Lawrence) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups Subject: cmsg newgroup news.announce.newgroups moderated Control: newgroup news.announce.newgroups moderated Approved: newgroups-request@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: <847584251.26809@uunet.uu.net> Date: Sun, 10 Nov 1996 00:04:11 GMT Lines: 7 X-Info: ftp://ftp.uu.net/networking/news/misc/pgpcontrol/README.html ftp://ftp.uu.net/networking/news/misc/pgpcontrol/README X-PGP-Sig: 2.7 Subject,Control,Message-ID,Date,From,Sender iQCVAgUBMoUb/MJdOtO4janBAQHpLwP8CUaABo1cuKy6WR9o/r3wrXqS2O1qqDj+ 0bqiwMOx27R9zjvJ71CncamnvgzaW9xgyQg6j9rWd/wPNQUnCY4ct2AhllvG4RQY 3eW/0ZGcVXwgNNxr2OJE/G9eJAUgbEZFWfmrqae22X55KqRnxGOcfppTwY1bfOiR yea2DMgCmvQ= =BtfV Xref: uunet control.newgroup:18932 news.announce.newgroups is a moderated newsgroup. 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(Moderated) From tale@uunet.uu.net Thu Nov 21 17:40:05 1996 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: tale@uunet.uu.net (David C Lawrence) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups Subject: cmsg newgroup news.announce.newgroups moderated Control: newgroup news.announce.newgroups moderated Approved: newgroups-request@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: <848615706.6116@uunet.uu.net> Date: Thu, 21 Nov 1996 22:35:06 GMT Lines: 7 X-Info: ftp://ftp.uu.net/networking/news/misc/pgpcontrol/README.html ftp://ftp.uu.net/networking/news/misc/pgpcontrol/README X-PGP-Sig: 2.7 Subject,Control,Message-ID,Date,From,Sender iQCVAgUBMpTZG8JdOtO4janBAQGBUAQAoKvKxMkzKt0K3ihDFQIIv/At3HjEfB+m lPWd4sidsHRhcQWbCdPCcDNsPjDlxbXqjHAsOnogNq0o5C2SJTLhViKbZvjIR561 86zFXdkbP9kQOQ2v28pI1dwIzflYE3CQJAdC+Wde+3Cu4pxI+GJdEp5nkYR3NJfT mGVonHaq2bg= =9BzU Xref: uunet control.newgroup:19283 news.announce.newgroups is a moderated newsgroup. 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(Moderated) From tale@uunet.uu.net Sun Nov 24 15:04:25 1996 Path: uunet!in2.uu.net!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.pbi.net!news.mathworks.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!gergs_bane.org!anon From: tale@uunet.uu.net Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups Subject: csmg rmgroup news.announce.newgroups Date: 24 Nov 1996 14:00:15 Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: Control: rmgroup news.announce.newgroups Approved: Fluffy Lines: 1 Xref: uunet control.rmgroup:7614 Booster message to remove bogus group From tale@uunet.uu.net Sun Nov 24 15:04:29 1996 Path: uunet!in1.uu.net!insync!enews.sgi.com!news.sgi.com!news.sprintlink.net!news-peer.sprintlink.net!gergs_bane.org!anon From: tale@uunet.uu.net Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups Subject: csmg rmgroup news.announce.newgroups Date: 24 Nov 1996 14:00:19 Sender: tale@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: Control: rmgroup news.announce.newgroups Approved: Fluffy Lines: 1 Xref: uunet control.rmgroup:7615 Booster message to remove bogus group From tale@uunet.uu.net Sun Nov 24 15:10:02 1996 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: tale@uunet.uu.net (David C Lawrence) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups Subject: cmsg newgroup news.announce.newgroups moderated Control: newgroup news.announce.newgroups moderated Approved: newgroups-request@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: <848866191.19215@uunet.uu.net> Date: Sun, 24 Nov 1996 20:09:51 GMT Lines: 7 X-Info: ftp://ftp.uu.net/networking/news/misc/pgpcontrol/README.html ftp://ftp.uu.net/networking/news/misc/pgpcontrol/README X-PGP-Sig: 2.7 Subject,Control,Message-ID,Date,From,Sender iQCVAgUBMpirj8JdOtO4janBAQFKsgP5AUCg1hlg0fPEUuzEH+WJAB1zgftqBBB8 b/Y/EfNTkfpIgJJ0IsgPefBBGAEBnefyZpkWx9zP0uZarcvrCjXwJCF5i6ocsBtA 7Kb9Y1aBmUei/yHkLMRv5SOGAAIU8ey5pVFFwqIQT3loXDun6Bncx5LGmcjjf8aq zAcZe6ck8QY= =Uvct Xref: uunet control.newgroup:19335 news.announce.newgroups is a moderated newsgroup. 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(Moderated) From tale@uunet.uu.net Tue Dec 24 15:15:03 1996 Path: uunet!bounce-back From: tale@uunet.uu.net (David C Lawrence) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups Subject: cmsg newgroup news.announce.newgroups moderated Control: newgroup news.announce.newgroups moderated Approved: newgroups-request@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: <851458206.2333@uunet.uu.net> Date: Tue, 24 Dec 1996 20:10:06 GMT Lines: 7 X-Info: ftp://ftp.uu.net/networking/news/misc/pgpcontrol/README.html ftp://ftp.uu.net/networking/news/misc/pgpcontrol/README X-PGP-Sig: 2.7 Subject,Control,Message-ID,Date,From,Sender iQCVAgUBMsA4nsJdOtO4janBAQFLfAP/UVlq0SojI1brVQ5ojmWMqEuSeg52VZ9b VsAEOSfpoPEHExT+iYXiANteU9BAbENauKywmqJKynwexd9x+13iMAybaYceADQY xx/mqau+d5t4k/GLMsgqZszFmGUKujHMWZcyEPBgwPaow6u/q5StsGSzBV52OQSO A+i+EOKjOeE= =N92+ Xref: uunet control.newgroup:20290 news.announce.newgroups is a moderated newsgroup. 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