From donahue@acf2.nyu.edu Tue Jul 8 21:45:02 1997 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: donahue@acf2.nyu.edu (donahue) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.sport.pro-wrestling Subject: RFD: rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated moderated Followup-To: news.groups Message-ID: <868422636.18030@isc.org> Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org Archive-Name: rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated Date: Wed, 09 Jul 1997 04:30:36 GMT Lines: 63 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:573 REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) moderated group rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of a world-wide moderated Usenet newsgroup rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated This is not a Call for Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time. Procedural details are below. Newsgroups line: rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated Professional wrestling. (Moderated) RATIONALE: rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated The existing rec.sport.pro-wrestling newsgroup is constantly littered with spam, junk and off-topic posts. This has become so much of a problem that these types of messages actually out-number the on-topic posts. CHARTER: rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated is for the discussion of the world of professional wrestling, including its events, personalities and behind-the-scenes dealings. rec.sport.pro-wrestling is _not_ for the discussion of fantasy pro-wrestling leagues, nor for the posting of binary files, advertisements or off-topic messages, flames or trolls. END CHARTER. MODERATOR INFO: rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated Moderator: Adam Donahue END MODERATOR INFO. PROCEDURE: This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes. In this phase of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroups should be raised and resolved. The discussion period will continue for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the first RFD for this proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups), after which a Call For Votes (CFV) may be posted by a neutral vote taker if the discussion warrants it. Please do not attempt to vote until this happens. All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups. This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup creation guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "How to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal". Please refer to these documents (available in news.announce.newgroups) if you have any questions about the process. DISTRIBUTION: This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups news.groups rec.sport.pro-wrestling Proponent: Adam Donahue From billones@primenet.com Tue Jan 6 22:00:10 1998 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: Jeremy Billones Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.sport.pro-wrestling,rec.sport.pro-wrestling.info Subject: RFD: rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated moderated Followup-To: news.groups Message-ID: <884151922.23255@isc.org> Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org Archive-Name: rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated Date: Wed, 07 Jan 1998 05:45:22 GMT Lines: 160 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:9689 news.groups:269626 rec.sport.pro-wrestling:334697 rec.sport.pro-wrestling.info:1439 REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) moderated group rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated Newsgroups line: rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated Sports Entertainment. (Moderated) RATIONALE: rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated Since 1989, the rec.sport.pro-wrestling newsgroup ("RSPW") has been a thriving resource and conversational outlet for the fans of professional wrestling. RSPW is a high-traffic newsgroup, with DejaNews reporting growth from an average of 266 articles posted per day in December 1995 to 510 articles per day in December 1996, to 745 articles per day in December 1997. In the past year, not only the high-traffic but also a proliferation of daily doses of SPAM, troll and flame posts, regular malicious disruptions on the newsgroup by id-forgers and impersonators, alphabet spam, empty posts, and other sources have made a congenial discussion of pro wrestling difficult. Due to this, the signal-to-noise ratio has decreased to the point where many of the group's posters have retreated to mailing lists, web page-based discussion fora, and privately moderated boards on AOL and Prodigy. These retreats have caused further degradation of the newsgroup as those with the most to contribute are also those who are most likely to give up in disgust. And as the signal degrades, still more "noisy" posts (off-topic posts, spam, posters working the group, childish flames, etc.) appear from people who see this as the expected behavior. Therefore, a discussion is proposed here on the possible creation of a new moderated pro-wrestling group - rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated ("RSPWM"). In no way is this proposal to be considered an attempt to moderate the current RSPW, which would continue as an unmoderated newsgroup for discussions of professional wrestling. Moderation is by no means intended to impede freedom of speech, but rather to help Usenet pro wrestling fans make the most of their time by ensuring that a minimum level of respect for others and civility is maintained in the discussion. The presence of a moderation panel with specific knowledge of and concern for this newsgroup, along with automated assistance, will allow it to react more quickly and more effectively to the ever changing and increasingly sophisticated dynamic of Usenet spam and attacks. CHARTER: rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated Rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated is to be a forum for the discussion of all aspects of professional wrestling. As such, all manner of discussion related to professional wrestling is considered to be on-topic, including but not limited to: 1) Show reports 2) Discussions of match, house show, television show and PPV results and quality (or lack thereof) 3) Discussions of the business aspects of pro wrestling such as angles, booking, promoting, acquisition and development of talent, including speculation as to the future. 4) History of pro wrestling 5) Personal experiences, and anecdotes on pro wrestling. 6) Discussion of upcoming house shows, television programs, PPVs and matches 7) Discussion of secondary media such as tapes, newsletters, and websites. 8) Limited announcements of upcoming shows, television/radio programs, PPVs and matches. 9) Regularly posted FAQs and FAQ related documents. 10) All posts to Rec.Sports.Pro-Wrestling.Info ("RSPWI"), to be posted by the moderator of RSPWI to RSPWM unless requested by the author that the article not be posted to RSPWM. 11) Other forms of sports entertainment for which no group currently exists. The following items are off-topic, and may be rejected by the moderation team: 1) Encoded binaries 2) HTML-encoded posts 3) Blank posts 4) Articles with all quoted text, and no original text (or only a .sig file) 5) Duplicate posts, either by accident or design 6) Spews or floods of a large number of articles for a single individual or group. The moderators shall not use personal opinion as to the "quality" of the post in determining approval/rejection. All posts shall be approved except where rejection criteria is specified. [A straw poll will be held during the RFD phase to determine clauses that my be added as additional criteria for approval/rejection.] It is expected that this charter will be modified by the readership over time as needed. The procedure for modification will be similar to standard Usenet guidelines, except as follows: - news.groups and news.announce.newgroups need not be involved - Discussion and voting periods are 14 days. - Should UVV members be unable/unwilling to run the vote, the RSPWI moderator or their consenting designee shall run the vote. END CHARTER. MODERATOR INFO: rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated Moderator: TBD Moderators TBD. During the RFD phase, volunteers will go through a straw poll process to attempt to get 5 or more acceptable moderators. Moderation will be performed using the Secure Team-based Usenet Moderation Program (STUMP), which will be hosted by Jeremy Billones . Where practicable, the following procedures will be followed by the moderation team: - Copies of the FAQ and Charter will be emailed to first-time posters, and initial posts may be held until the author confirms receipt. - The moderators may use the tools provided (now or in the future) with STUMP to aid in moderation of the group. These may include "white lists," keywording of headers. - Moderators should submit their posts to another moderator for approval rather than self-posting - Posts rejected for content (rather than format) should be sent to a second moderator for confirmation or approval. - Moderators can be added or removed from the moderation team by unanimous consent of all other moderators, or via the charter modification process. (Temporary change of status as is expected for a STUMP moderation process is to occur as required.) END MODERATOR INFO. PROCEDURE: This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes. In this phase of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroups should be raised and resolved. The discussion period will continue for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the first RFD for this proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups), after which a Call For Votes (CFV) may be posted by a neutral vote taker if the discussion warrants it. Please do not attempt to vote until this happens. All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups. [Discussion arising from and due to the relevant straw polls may occur on rec.sport.pro-wrestling.] This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup creation guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "How to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal". Please refer to these documents (available in news.announce.newgroups) if you have any questions about the process. DISTRIBUTION: This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups, rec.sport.pro-wrestling, rec.sport.pro-wrestling.info Proponent: Jeremy Billones From billones@primenet.com Tue Jan 27 18:30:13 1998 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: billones@primenet.com (Jeremy Billones) Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.sport.pro-wrestling,rec.sport.pro-wrestling.info Subject: 2nd RFD: rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated moderated Followup-To: news.groups Message-ID: <885953815.7382@isc.org> Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org Archive-Name: rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated Date: Wed, 28 Jan 1998 02:16:55 GMT Lines: 253 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:9727 news.groups:270628 rec.sport.pro-wrestling:341595 rec.sport.pro-wrestling.info:1459 REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) moderated group rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated Newsgroups line: rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated Sports Entertainment. (Moderated) CHANGES from previous RFD: Added moderators and additional moderation criteria. RATIONALE: rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated Since 1989, the rec.sport.pro-wrestling newsgroup ("RSPW") has been a thriving resource and conversational outlet for the fans of professional wrestling. RSPW is a high-traffic newsgroup, with DejaNews reporting growth from an average of 266 articles posted per day in December 1995 to 510 articles per day in December 1996, to 745 articles per day in December 1997. In the past year, not only the high-traffic but also a proliferation of daily doses of SPAM, troll and flame posts, regular malicious disruptions on the newsgroup by id-forgers and impersonators, alphabet spam, empty posts, and other sources have made a congenial discussion of pro wrestling difficult. Due to this, the signal-to-noise ratio has decreased to the point where many of the group's posters have retreated to mailing lists, web page-based discussion fora, and privately moderated boards on AOL and Prodigy. These retreats have caused further degradation of the newsgroup as those with the most to contribute are also those who are most likely to give up in disgust. And as the signal degrades, still more "noisy" posts (off-topic posts, spam, posters working the group, childish flames, etc.) appear from people who see this as the expected behavior. Therefore, a discussion is proposed here on the possible creation of a new moderated pro-wrestling group - rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated ("RSPWM"). In no way is this proposal to be considered an attempt to moderate the current RSPW, which would continue as an unmoderated newsgroup for discussions of professional wrestling. Moderation is by no means intended to impede freedom of speech, but rather to help Usenet pro wrestling fans make the most of their time by ensuring that a minimum level of respect for others and civility is maintained in the discussion. The presence of a moderation panel with specific knowledge of and concern for this newsgroup, along with automated assistance, will allow it to react more quickly and more effectively to the ever changing and increasingly sophisticated dynamic of Usenet spam and attacks. CHARTER: rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated Rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated is to be a forum for the discussion of all aspects of professional wrestling. As such, all manner of discussion related to professional wrestling is considered to be on-topic, including but not limited to: 1) Show reports, 2) Discussions of match, house show, television show and PPV results and quality (or lack thereof), 3) Discussions of the business aspects of pro wrestling such as angles, booking, promoting, acquisition and development of talent, including speculation as to the future, 4) History of pro wrestling, 5) Personal experiences, and anecdotes on pro wrestling, 6) Discussion of upcoming house shows, television programs, PPVs and matches, 7) Discussion of secondary media such as tapes, newsletters, and websites, 8) Limited announcements of upcoming shows, television/radio programs, PPVs and matches, 9) Regularly posted FAQs and FAQ related documents, 10) All posts to Rec.Sports.Pro-Wrestling.Info ("RSPWI"), to be posted by the moderator of RSPWI to RSPWM unless requested by the author that the article not be posted to RSPWM, 11) Other forms of sports entertainment for which no group currently exists. The following items are off-topic, and may be rejected by the moderation team: 1) Encoded binaries, or requests for binaries. 2) HTML-encoded posts. 3) Blank posts. 4) Articles with all quoted text, and no original text. Such posts as a "me too" are also off-topic by this criteria. 5) Duplicate posts, either by accident or design. 6) Spews or floods of a large number of articles for a single individual or group. 7) Posts written as if the poster were a professional wrestler. Such posts include works of fiction (e.g. the RSPWF). 8) "News posts" that are intended to be taken seriously (not obviously satire) but are patently untrue. Known false rumors are also considered off topic by this criteria. 9) Requests for the posting of information, when that information can be reasonably be expected to be posted shortly, shall be rejected. (ex. PPV results, FAQs). If appropriate, the moderator may mail such information, or the location of such information, directly to the poster (ex. FAQs). 10) Posts whose primary purpose is to advertise for a web page. 11) Any advertisement that has been posted to RSPWM within the previous fourteen days. 12) A post that, in the opinion of the moderator, in whole or in part, is meant to insult or anger any poster or reader of the newsgroup (aka a "flame") is considered off topic and shall be rejected. [Posts that are directed at the content of a previous post are acceptable; ad homeneim attacks are not.] 13) A post that, in the opinion of the moderator, in whole or in part, is meant to provoke any poster or reader of the newsgroup (aka a "troll") is considered off topic and shall be rejected. 14) Any post that, in the opinion of the moderator, does not contain on topic material. This may include posts with some on-topic content, or with an "ObWrestling," if in the opinion of the moderator the post is essentially off topic. The moderators shall not use personal opinion as to the "quality" of the post in determining approval/rejection. All posts shall be approved except where rejection criteria is specified. It is expected that this charter will be modified by the readership over time as needed. The procedure for modification will be similar to standard Usenet guidelines, except as follows: - news.groups and news.announce.newgroups need not be involved - Discussion and voting periods are 14 days. - Should UVV members be unable/unwilling to run the vote, the RSPWI moderator or their consenting designee shall run the vote. END CHARTER. MODERATOR INFO: rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated Moderator: Jeremy Billones Jeremy Billones has been on Usenet since 1989, and has participated on rec.sport.pro-wrestling since before it was formed (discussions took place in rec.sport.misc). He is the moderator of rec.arts.comics.info and rec.arts.comics.reviews, holding the former post for a year and the latter since the group's creation 9 months ago. He has also been a member of the Usenet Volunteer Votetakers (UVV) for the past 2 years. Moderator: Gern Blanston Who Am I: A long-time (25+ Year) pro-wrestling fan who would like to have a newsgroup that features the same flavor RSPW does, but doesn't have the constant spamming and trolling that takes place now. My Qualifications:(?) Well, I can read. I can write, too. Most times full sentences. (Okay, so I know that wasn't a full sentence there.) I have a decent sense of humor, and am moderately intelligent. I believe that for any RSPW-M to survive, you must trust the people you allow to moderate. I have a strong desire to keep RSPW's "Edge" without having to wade through the unintelligent waste of time posts, and the constant flame wars and trolling that takes place now. Other than that, I'm reasonably well-known here and as to whether I can be trusted to do a good job moderating, I leave it up to you. I read all of RSPW now, and I obviously have time to do that, so given the fact that there will be other moderators, the time it would take to moderate would only be a fraction of what I spend now. Moderator: Scott Keith Scott has been on the 'net since 1992 and still remembers thinking that the World Wide Web was a pretty neat idea. He currently maintains the frequently asked questions list for professional wrestling as well as the posting guide for RSPW, which gives him as many credentials as anyone else who would care to challenge them. He also created the RSPW spinoff groups RSPW.fantasy and RSPW.info and is just relieved that someone else gets the hassle this time. Moderator: Mattie C. I've been a wrestling fan for 30 years, and love and respect the sport. I am also a big fan of Usenet, and of RSP-W in particular. If I am a moderator, I will try to keep this ng the best place available to discuss all aspects of the sport, but without the troll and spam pollution that have diverted discussion from wrestling to moderation of late. I would like RSP-W as a group to remain as diverse, amusing, controversial, and flamboyant as the sport that has spawned it. I see the position of moderator as being similar to an editor, or sound engineer: their intent is not to change the content or tone of the work, merely to filter out what distracts the listener from complete enjoyment of it. Off-topic posts, flamebait, multiple senseless one-line posts, and other obvious violations of Usenet 'netiquette do not add to anyone's enjoyment of RSP-W, and should have no place on RSP-WM. Moderator: Mike Palij Okay. I have been reading and contributing to RSPW for the past five years. Over the years I have posted numerous house show reports, primarily WWF and ECW (some of these have now been incorporated into websites), and have tried to foster meaningful discussion of the business, the history, and the culture of pro-wrestling. I have a sense of the history of both RSPW and pro-wrestling which, I believe, will assist me in making decisions. I presently serve as a moderator on another Usenet newsgroup, so I already have some familiarity with the moderation process. I think that I can be fair and unbiased, and make judgments that are consistent with the charter of the new group as well as the spirit of pro-wrestling fandom. Moderator: Christopher Robin Zimmerman History with r.s.p-w goes back to 1992. Currently only known for the year-end awards, but had been a frequent poster in prior years and can still lay claim to the title of "original RAW guy" and one of two people to have most infuriating pro-WWF bias in discussions with Herb Kunze. Believes in the spirit of MODO with all his heart. Working at ISP means he can sneak in extra moderating time when not putting out fires. Moderation will be performed using the Secure Team-based Usenet Moderation Program (STUMP), which will be hosted by Jeremy Billones . Where practicable, the following procedures will be followed by the moderation team: - Copies of the FAQ and Charter will be emailed to first-time posters, and initial posts may be held until the author confirms receipt. - The moderators may use the tools provided (now or in the future) with STUMP to aid in moderation of the group. These may include "white lists," keywording of headers. - Moderators should submit their posts to another moderator for approval rather than self-posting - Posts rejected for content (rather than format) should be sent to a second moderator for confirmation or approval. - Moderators can be added or removed from the moderation team by unanimous consent of all other moderators, or via the charter modification process. (Temporary change of status as is expected for a STUMP moderation process is to occur as required.) END MODERATOR INFO. PROCEDURE: This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes. In this phase of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroups should be raised and resolved. The discussion period will continue for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the first RFD for this proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups), after which a Call For Votes (CFV) may be posted by a neutral vote taker if the discussion warrants it. Please do not attempt to vote until this happens. All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups. This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup creation guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "How to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal". Please refer to these documents (available in news.announce.newgroups) if you have any questions about the process. DISTRIBUTION: This RFD has been posted to the following newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups, rec.sport.pro-wrestling, rec.sport.pro-wrestling.info - Proponent: Jeremy Billones From jjd@primenet.com Thu Feb 12 18:45:06 1998 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: Jim Davis Reply-To: jjd@primenet.com Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.sport.pro-wrestling,rec.sport.pro-wrestling.info Subject: CFV: rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated moderated Followup-To: poster Message-ID: <887337320.7882@isc.org> Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org Expires: 7 Mar 1998 00:00:00 GMT Archive-Name: rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated Date: Fri, 13 Feb 1998 02:35:21 GMT Lines: 225 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:9771 news.groups:271477 rec.sport.pro-wrestling:351085 rec.sport.pro-wrestling.info:1511 FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) moderated group rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated Newsgroups line: rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated Sports Entertainment. (Moderated) Instructions for voting are just before the ballot itself. Please read them before voting. If you have questions about the voting process, ask the votetaker. This CFV is to be distributed only by the votetaker. It is not to be posted to newsgroups, or mailed to mailing lists or individuals, except by the votetaker, and it is not to be placed on the World Wide Web. Ballots or CFVs provided by anyone except the votetaker will be invalid. Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 6 Mar 1998. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent. Proponent: Jeremy Billones Votetaker: Jim Davis RATIONALE: rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated Since 1989, the rec.sport.pro-wrestling newsgroup ("RSPW") has been a thriving resource and conversational outlet for the fans of professional wrestling. RSPW is a high-traffic newsgroup, with DejaNews reporting growth from an average of 266 articles posted per day in December 1995 to 510 articles per day in December 1996, to 745 articles per day in December 1997. In the past year, not only the high-traffic but also a proliferation of daily doses of SPAM, troll and flame posts, regular malicious disruptions on the newsgroup by id-forgers and impersonators, alphabet spam, empty posts, and other sources have made a congenial discussion of pro wrestling difficult. Due to this, the signal-to-noise ratio has decreased to the point where many of the group's posters have retreated to mailing lists, web page-based discussion fora, and privately moderated boards on AOL and Prodigy. These retreats have caused further degradation of the newsgroup as those with the most to contribute are also those who are most likely to give up in disgust. And as the signal degrades, still more "noisy" posts (off-topic posts, spam, posters working the group, childish flames, etc.) appear from people who see this as the expected behavior. Therefore, a discussion is proposed here on the possible creation of a new moderated pro-wrestling group - rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated ("RSPWM"). In no way is this proposal to be considered an attempt to moderate the current RSPW, which would continue as an unmoderated newsgroup for discussions of professional wrestling. Moderation is by no means intended to impede freedom of speech, but rather to help Usenet pro wrestling fans make the most of their time by ensuring that a minimum level of respect for others and civility is maintained in the discussion. The presence of a moderation panel with specific knowledge of and concern for this newsgroup, along with automated assistance, will allow it to react more quickly and more effectively to the ever changing and increasingly sophisticated dynamic of Usenet spam and attacks. CHARTER: rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated Rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated is to be a forum for the discussion of all aspects of professional wrestling. As such, all manner of discussion related to professional wrestling is considered to be on-topic, including but not limited to: 1) Show reports, 2) Discussions of match, house show, television show and PPV results and quality (or lack thereof), 3) Discussions of the business aspects of pro wrestling such as angles, booking, promoting, acquisition and development of talent, including speculation as to the future, 4) History of pro wrestling, 5) Personal experiences, and anecdotes on pro wrestling, 6) Discussion of upcoming house shows, television programs, PPVs and matches, 7) Discussion of secondary media such as tapes, newsletters, and websites, 8) Limited announcements of upcoming shows, television/radio programs, PPVs and matches, 9) Regularly posted FAQs and FAQ related documents, 10) All posts to Rec.Sports.Pro-Wrestling.Info ("RSPWI"), to be posted by the moderator of RSPWI to RSPWM unless requested by the author that the article not be posted to RSPWM, 11) Other forms of sports entertainment for which no group currently exists. The following items are off-topic, and may be rejected by the moderation team: 1) Encoded binaries, or requests for binaries. 2) HTML-encoded posts. 3) Blank posts. 4) Articles with all quoted text, and no original text. Such posts as a "me too" are also off-topic by this criteria. 5) Duplicate posts, either by accident or design. 6) Spews or floods of a large number of articles for a single individual or group. 7) Posts written as if the poster were a professional wrestling persona. Such posts include works of fiction (e.g. the RSPWF). 8) "News posts" that are intended to be taken seriously (not obviously satire) but are patently untrue. Known false rumors are also considered off topic by this criteria. 9) Requests for the posting of information, when that information can be reasonably be expected to be posted shortly, shall be rejected. (ex. PPV results, FAQs). If appropriate, the moderator may mail such information, or the location of such information, directly to the poster (ex. FAQs). 10) Posts whose primary purpose is to advertise for a web page. 11) Any advertisement that has been posted to RSPWM within the previous fourteen days. 12) A post that, in the opinion of the moderator, in whole or in part, is meant to insult or anger any poster or reader of the newsgroup (aka a "flame") is considered off topic and shall be rejected. [Posts that are directed at the content of a previous post are acceptable; ad homeneim attacks are not.] 13) A post that, in the opinion of the moderator, in whole or in part, is meant to provoke any poster or reader of the newsgroup (aka a "troll") is considered off topic and shall be rejected. 14) Any post that, in the opinion of the moderator, does not contain on topic material. This may include posts with some on-topic content, or with an "ObWrestling," if in the opinion of the moderator the post is essentially off topic. The moderators shall not use personal opinion as to the "quality" of the post in determining approval/rejection. All posts shall be approved except where rejection criteria is specified. It is expected that this charter will be modified by the readership over time as needed. The procedure for modification will be similar to standard Usenet guidelines, except as follows: - news.groups and news.announce.newgroups need not be involved - Discussion and voting periods are 14 days. - Should UVV members be unable/unwilling to run the vote, the RSPWI moderator or their consenting designee shall run the vote. Moderation Policy Moderation will be performed using the Secure Team-based Usenet Moderation Program (STUMP), which will be hosted by Jeremy Billones . Where practicable, the following procedures will be followed by the moderation team: - Copies of the FAQ and Charter will be emailed to first-time posters, and initial posts may be held until the author confirms receipt. - The moderators may use the tools provided (now or in the future) with STUMP to aid in moderation of the group. These may include "white lists," keywording of headers. - Moderators should submit their posts to another moderator for approval rather than self-posting - Posts rejected for content (rather than format) should be sent to a second moderator for confirmation or approval. - Moderators can be added or removed from the moderation team by unanimous consent of all other moderators, or via the charter modification process. (Temporary change of status as is expected for a STUMP moderation process is to occur as required.) END CHARTER. MODERATOR INFO: rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated Moderator: Jeremy Billones Moderator: Gern Blanston Moderator: Scott Keith Moderator: Mike Palij Moderator: Christopher Robin Zimmerman Administrative contact address: rspwm-admin@primenet.com Article submission address: rspwm@primenet.com END MODERATOR INFO. HOW TO VOTE: Follow these instructions *exactly*! Votes are counted by computer. You should send E-MAIL (posts to a newsgroup are invalid) to: jjd@primenet.com Please do not assume that just replying to this message will work. Check the address before you mail your vote. Your mail message should contain one and only one of the following vote statements: I vote YES on rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated I vote NO on rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated Voter name: If your mail software does not indicate your real name (for example, AOL does not), include _exactly_ the statement above on a _separate_ line and add your name after the colon. Having your name in your signature line is NOT enough! Do NOT join the lines together or remove the words "Voter name"! You may also vote ABSTAIN (which records an empty vote) or CANCEL (which removes any earlier votes). ABSTAIN does not affect the final vote count in any way but is listed, whereas CANCEL is not. If these instructions are unclear, please consult the Introduction to Usenet Voting or the Usenet Voting FAQ at http://www.iki.fi/~jpatokal/uvv/. IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES: Standard Guidelines for voting apply. One vote per person, one account per voter. Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker. Anonymous, forwarded or proxy votes are not valid. Votes mailed by WWW/HTML/CGI forms are considered to be anonymous votes. Vote counting is automated. Failure to follow these directions may mean that your vote does not get counted. If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three days contact the votetaker about the problem. 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PQ datestamp: 971119 From jjd@primenet.com Mon Feb 23 19:15:11 1998 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: Jim Davis Reply-To: jjd@primenet.com Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.sport.pro-wrestling,rec.sport.pro-wrestling.info Subject: 2nd CFV: rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated moderated Followup-To: poster Message-ID: <888289460.21249@isc.org> Supersedes: <887337320.7882@isc.org> Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org Expires: 7 Mar 1998 00:00:00 GMT Archive-Name: rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated Date: Tue, 24 Feb 1998 03:04:20 GMT Lines: 242 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:9801 news.groups:272356 rec.sport.pro-wrestling:356628 rec.sport.pro-wrestling.info:1536 LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) moderated group rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated Newsgroups line: rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated Sports Entertainment. (Moderated) Instructions for voting are just before the ballot itself. Please read them before voting. If you have questions about the voting process, ask the votetaker. This CFV is to be distributed only by the votetaker. It is not to be posted to newsgroups, or mailed to mailing lists or individuals, except by the votetaker, and it is not to be placed on the World Wide Web. Ballots or CFVs provided by anyone except the votetaker will be invalid. Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 6 Mar 1998. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent. Proponent: Jeremy Billones Votetaker: Jim Davis RATIONALE: rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated Since 1989, the rec.sport.pro-wrestling newsgroup ("RSPW") has been a thriving resource and conversational outlet for the fans of professional wrestling. RSPW is a high-traffic newsgroup, with DejaNews reporting growth from an average of 266 articles posted per day in December 1995 to 510 articles per day in December 1996, to 745 articles per day in December 1997. In the past year, not only the high-traffic but also a proliferation of daily doses of SPAM, troll and flame posts, regular malicious disruptions on the newsgroup by id-forgers and impersonators, alphabet spam, empty posts, and other sources have made a congenial discussion of pro wrestling difficult. Due to this, the signal-to-noise ratio has decreased to the point where many of the group's posters have retreated to mailing lists, web page-based discussion fora, and privately moderated boards on AOL and Prodigy. These retreats have caused further degradation of the newsgroup as those with the most to contribute are also those who are most likely to give up in disgust. And as the signal degrades, still more "noisy" posts (off-topic posts, spam, posters working the group, childish flames, etc.) appear from people who see this as the expected behavior. Therefore, a discussion is proposed here on the possible creation of a new moderated pro-wrestling group - rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated ("RSPWM"). In no way is this proposal to be considered an attempt to moderate the current RSPW, which would continue as an unmoderated newsgroup for discussions of professional wrestling. Moderation is by no means intended to impede freedom of speech, but rather to help Usenet pro wrestling fans make the most of their time by ensuring that a minimum level of respect for others and civility is maintained in the discussion. The presence of a moderation panel with specific knowledge of and concern for this newsgroup, along with automated assistance, will allow it to react more quickly and more effectively to the ever changing and increasingly sophisticated dynamic of Usenet spam and attacks. CHARTER: rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated Rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated is to be a forum for the discussion of all aspects of professional wrestling. As such, all manner of discussion related to professional wrestling is considered to be on-topic, including but not limited to: 1) Show reports, 2) Discussions of match, house show, television show and PPV results and quality (or lack thereof), 3) Discussions of the business aspects of pro wrestling such as angles, booking, promoting, acquisition and development of talent, including speculation as to the future, 4) History of pro wrestling, 5) Personal experiences, and anecdotes on pro wrestling, 6) Discussion of upcoming house shows, television programs, PPVs and matches, 7) Discussion of secondary media such as tapes, newsletters, and websites, 8) Limited announcements of upcoming shows, television/radio programs, PPVs and matches, 9) Regularly posted FAQs and FAQ related documents, 10) All posts to Rec.Sports.Pro-Wrestling.Info ("RSPWI"), to be posted by the moderator of RSPWI to RSPWM unless requested by the author that the article not be posted to RSPWM, 11) Other forms of sports entertainment for which no group currently exists. The following items are off-topic, and may be rejected by the moderation team: 1) Encoded binaries, or requests for binaries. 2) HTML-encoded posts. 3) Blank posts. 4) Articles with all quoted text, and no original text. Such posts as a "me too" are also off-topic by this criteria. 5) Duplicate posts, either by accident or design. 6) Spews or floods of a large number of articles for a single individual or group. 7) Posts written as if the poster were a professional wrestling persona. Such posts include works of fiction (e.g. the RSPWF). 8) "News posts" that are intended to be taken seriously (not obviously satire) but are patently untrue. Known false rumors are also considered off topic by this criteria. 9) Requests for the posting of information, when that information can be reasonably be expected to be posted shortly, shall be rejected. (ex. PPV results, FAQs). If appropriate, the moderator may mail such information, or the location of such information, directly to the poster (ex. FAQs). 10) Posts whose primary purpose is to advertise for a web page. 11) Any advertisement that has been posted to RSPWM within the previous fourteen days. 12) A post that, in the opinion of the moderator, in whole or in part, is meant to insult or anger any poster or reader of the newsgroup (aka a "flame") is considered off topic and shall be rejected. [Posts that are directed at the content of a previous post are acceptable; ad homeneim attacks are not.] 13) A post that, in the opinion of the moderator, in whole or in part, is meant to provoke any poster or reader of the newsgroup (aka a "troll") is considered off topic and shall be rejected. 14) Any post that, in the opinion of the moderator, does not contain on topic material. This may include posts with some on-topic content, or with an "ObWrestling," if in the opinion of the moderator the post is essentially off topic. The moderators shall not use personal opinion as to the "quality" of the post in determining approval/rejection. All posts shall be approved except where rejection criteria is specified. It is expected that this charter will be modified by the readership over time as needed. The procedure for modification will be similar to standard Usenet guidelines, except as follows: - news.groups and news.announce.newgroups need not be involved - Discussion and voting periods are 14 days. - Should UVV members be unable/unwilling to run the vote, the RSPWI moderator or their consenting designee shall run the vote. Moderation Policy Moderation will be performed using the Secure Team-based Usenet Moderation Program (STUMP), which will be hosted by Jeremy Billones . Where practicable, the following procedures will be followed by the moderation team: - Copies of the FAQ and Charter will be emailed to first-time posters, and initial posts may be held until the author confirms receipt. - The moderators may use the tools provided (now or in the future) with STUMP to aid in moderation of the group. These may include "white lists," keywording of headers. - Moderators should submit their posts to another moderator for approval rather than self-posting - Posts rejected for content (rather than format) should be sent to a second moderator for confirmation or approval. - Moderators can be added or removed from the moderation team by unanimous consent of all other moderators, or via the charter modification process. (Temporary change of status as is expected for a STUMP moderation process is to occur as required.) END CHARTER. MODERATOR INFO: rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated Moderator: Jeremy Billones Moderator: Gern Blanston Moderator: Scott Keith Moderator: Mike Palij Moderator: Christopher Robin Zimmerman Administrative contact address: rspwm-admin@primenet.com Article submission address: rspwm@primenet.com END MODERATOR INFO. HOW TO VOTE: Follow these instructions *exactly*! Votes are counted by computer. You should send E-MAIL (posts to a newsgroup are invalid) to: jjd@primenet.com Please do not assume that just replying to this message will work. Check the address before you mail your vote. Your mail message should contain one and only one of the following vote statements: I vote YES on rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated I vote NO on rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated Voter name: If your mail software does not indicate your real name (for example, AOL does not), include _exactly_ the statement above on a _separate_ line and add your name after the colon. Having your name in your signature line is NOT enough! Do NOT join the lines together or remove the words "Voter name"! You may also vote ABSTAIN (which records an empty vote) or CANCEL (which removes any earlier votes). ABSTAIN does not affect the final vote count in any way but is listed, whereas CANCEL is not. If these instructions are unclear, please consult the Introduction to Usenet Voting or the Usenet Voting FAQ at http://www.iki.fi/~jpatokal/uvv/. IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES: Standard Guidelines for voting apply. One vote per person, one account per voter. Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker. Anonymous, forwarded or proxy votes are not valid. Votes mailed by WWW/HTML/CGI forms are considered to be anonymous votes. Vote counting is automated. Failure to follow these directions may mean that your vote does not get counted. If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three days contact the votetaker about the problem. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly. Duplicate votes are resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote. Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results post. The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of persons who would read a proposed newsgroup. Soliciting votes from disinterested parties defeats this purpose. Please do not distribute this CFV. If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted to news.announce.newgroups. Distributing pre-marked or otherwise edited copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud. When in doubt, ask the votetaker. This CFV was created with uvpq 1.0 (Jun 10 1997). PQ datestamp: 971119 rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated Bounce List - No need to revote ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ BGeruntho@aol.com Bryan Geruntho D'oh@brown.edu Alex Bogdan dscali@mypad.com David Scali feldman2@tcnj.com Andrew Feldman Hayabu2354@aol.com Jonathan Derek Williams heirdirector@hotmale.com Richard Bressler lcs@NOSPAMzk3.dec.com Larry Smith MikeBelke@aol.com Mike Belker MikeT107@aol.com Bill Markley OutcastAB@aol.com rimp1@NOSPAMworldnet.att.net Michael Rimpel sportsguy@nospamrocketmail.com Jay McArthur wildwood72@pipeline.com.doobie.doobie.doo Bill Wilson From jjd@primenet.com Fri Mar 6 17:00:11 1998 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: Jim Davis Reply-To: jjd@primenet.com Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,rec.sport.pro-wrestling,rec.sport.pro-wrestling.info Subject: RESULT: rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated moderated passes 199:72 Followup-To: news.groups Message-ID: <889231659.16677@isc.org> Supersedes: <888289460.21249@isc.org> Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org Archive-Name: rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated Date: Sat, 07 Mar 1998 00:47:41 GMT Lines: 456 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:9829 news.groups:273210 rec.sport.pro-wrestling:363269 rec.sport.pro-wrestling.info:1565 RESULT moderated group rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated passes 199:72 There were 199 YES votes and 72 NO votes, for a total of 271 valid votes. There were 4 abstains. For group passage, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO) votes. There also must be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes. rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated met those criteria on Tue Feb 24 14:51:44 1998. There is a five day discussion period after these results are posted. If no serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter. Newsgroups line: rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated Sports Entertainment. (Moderated) This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent. Proponent: Jeremy Billones Votetaker: Jim Davis RATIONALE: rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated Since 1989, the rec.sport.pro-wrestling newsgroup ("RSPW") has been a thriving resource and conversational outlet for the fans of professional wrestling. RSPW is a high-traffic newsgroup, with DejaNews reporting growth from an average of 266 articles posted per day in December 1995 to 510 articles per day in December 1996, to 745 articles per day in December 1997. In the past year, not only the high-traffic but also a proliferation of daily doses of SPAM, troll and flame posts, regular malicious disruptions on the newsgroup by id-forgers and impersonators, alphabet spam, empty posts, and other sources have made a congenial discussion of pro wrestling difficult. Due to this, the signal-to-noise ratio has decreased to the point where many of the group's posters have retreated to mailing lists, web page-based discussion fora, and privately moderated boards on AOL and Prodigy. These retreats have caused further degradation of the newsgroup as those with the most to contribute are also those who are most likely to give up in disgust. And as the signal degrades, still more "noisy" posts (off-topic posts, spam, posters working the group, childish flames, etc.) appear from people who see this as the expected behavior. Therefore, a discussion is proposed here on the possible creation of a new moderated pro-wrestling group - rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated ("RSPWM"). In no way is this proposal to be considered an attempt to moderate the current RSPW, which would continue as an unmoderated newsgroup for discussions of professional wrestling. Moderation is by no means intended to impede freedom of speech, but rather to help Usenet pro wrestling fans make the most of their time by ensuring that a minimum level of respect for others and civility is maintained in the discussion. The presence of a moderation panel with specific knowledge of and concern for this newsgroup, along with automated assistance, will allow it to react more quickly and more effectively to the ever changing and increasingly sophisticated dynamic of Usenet spam and attacks. CHARTER: rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated Rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated is to be a forum for the discussion of all aspects of professional wrestling. As such, all manner of discussion related to professional wrestling is considered to be on-topic, including but not limited to: 1) Show reports, 2) Discussions of match, house show, television show and PPV results and quality (or lack thereof), 3) Discussions of the business aspects of pro wrestling such as angles, booking, promoting, acquisition and development of talent, including speculation as to the future, 4) History of pro wrestling, 5) Personal experiences, and anecdotes on pro wrestling, 6) Discussion of upcoming house shows, television programs, PPVs and matches, 7) Discussion of secondary media such as tapes, newsletters, and websites, 8) Limited announcements of upcoming shows, television/radio programs, PPVs and matches, 9) Regularly posted FAQs and FAQ related documents, 10) All posts to Rec.Sports.Pro-Wrestling.Info ("RSPWI"), to be posted by the moderator of RSPWI to RSPWM unless requested by the author that the article not be posted to RSPWM, 11) Other forms of sports entertainment for which no group currently exists. The following items are off-topic, and may be rejected by the moderation team: 1) Encoded binaries, or requests for binaries. 2) HTML-encoded posts. 3) Blank posts. 4) Articles with all quoted text, and no original text. Such posts as a "me too" are also off-topic by this criteria. 5) Duplicate posts, either by accident or design. 6) Spews or floods of a large number of articles for a single individual or group. 7) Posts written as if the poster were a professional wrestling persona. Such posts include works of fiction (e.g. the RSPWF). 8) "News posts" that are intended to be taken seriously (not obviously satire) but are patently untrue. Known false rumors are also considered off topic by this criteria. 9) Requests for the posting of information, when that information can be reasonably be expected to be posted shortly, shall be rejected. (ex. PPV results, FAQs). If appropriate, the moderator may mail such information, or the location of such information, directly to the poster (ex. FAQs). 10) Posts whose primary purpose is to advertise for a web page. 11) Any advertisement that has been posted to RSPWM within the previous fourteen days. 12) A post that, in the opinion of the moderator, in whole or in part, is meant to insult or anger any poster or reader of the newsgroup (aka a "flame") is considered off topic and shall be rejected. [Posts that are directed at the content of a previous post are acceptable; ad homeneim attacks are not.] 13) A post that, in the opinion of the moderator, in whole or in part, is meant to provoke any poster or reader of the newsgroup (aka a "troll") is considered off topic and shall be rejected. 14) Any post that, in the opinion of the moderator, does not contain on topic material. This may include posts with some on-topic content, or with an "ObWrestling," if in the opinion of the moderator the post is essentially off topic. The moderators shall not use personal opinion as to the "quality" of the post in determining approval/rejection. All posts shall be approved except where rejection criteria is specified. It is expected that this charter will be modified by the readership over time as needed. The procedure for modification will be similar to standard Usenet guidelines, except as follows: - news.groups and news.announce.newgroups need not be involved - Discussion and voting periods are 14 days. - Should UVV members be unable/unwilling to run the vote, the RSPWI moderator or their consenting designee shall run the vote. Moderation Policy Moderation will be performed using the Secure Team-based Usenet Moderation Program (STUMP), which will be hosted by Jeremy Billones . Where practicable, the following procedures will be followed by the moderation team: - Copies of the FAQ and Charter will be emailed to first-time posters, and initial posts may be held until the author confirms receipt. - The moderators may use the tools provided (now or in the future) with STUMP to aid in moderation of the group. These may include "white lists," keywording of headers. - Moderators should submit their posts to another moderator for approval rather than self-posting - Posts rejected for content (rather than format) should be sent to a second moderator for confirmation or approval. - Moderators can be added or removed from the moderation team by unanimous consent of all other moderators, or via the charter modification process. (Temporary change of status as is expected for a STUMP moderation process is to occur as required.) END CHARTER. MODERATOR INFO: rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated Moderator: Jeremy Billones Moderator: Gern Blanston Moderator: Scott Keith Moderator: Mike Palij Moderator: Christopher Robin Zimmerman Administrative contact address: rspwm-admin@primenet.com Article submission address: rspwm@primenet.com END MODERATOR INFO. rec.sport.pro-wrestling.moderated Final Vote Ack Voted Yes ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 105227.1476@compuserve.com Rose Volgen acolin@triumf.ca Colin Morton agent-13@geocities.com Joe Littrell alexa@nidlink.com Dawn L. Bobby alipkin@emory.edu Adam Lipkin amsmall@hom.net Angelina Small arielle@taronga.com Stephanie da Silva asementelli@sfasu.edu Dr. Arthur Sementelli BAGINSKI@CNS40.FNAL.GOV Steve Baginski bbacon@cqi.com William Bacon beatle+@CMU.EDU Max Chittister BGeruntho@aol.com Bryan Geruntho billones@primenet.com Jeremy Billones blm@worldnet.att.net Barry L. Moore booda@datasync.com Martin H. Booda BrentN@geocities.com Brent P. Newhall brownsta@concentric.net Stan Brown brucej@sequent.com Bruce Jones buzzsaw@netcom.com Godmaster Buzzsaw caroline@cbunce.demon.co.uk Caroline Bunce CASPICER@prodigy.net Carl Spicer cbird@chat.carleton.ca Christopher Bird chameleon@lsh.org Scott Childers Chris.J.Quinn@siemenscom.com Chris Quinn chris@kzim.com Christopher Robin Zimmerman cipher@mindspring.com David A. Howard claudel@netcom.com Claude V. Lucas crazy33@mindspring.com Peter Stein cronk@CS.WM.EDU David Cronk cspot@hyperreal.org Chris.Hilker CTGoss@prodigy.net Christopher Goss cwwn@aol.com Chris Woodward D'oh@brown.edu Alex Bogdan dannyp@sky.net Danny Porter daveo@julian.uwo.ca Dave O'Halloran david@home.net.nz David Farrar davidb+@andrew.cmu.edu David M. Bartlett dblazina@concentric.net David Blazina DChance338@aol.com David A. Chancellor dclutts@kih.net David Clutts df2@ElSegundoCA.NCR.COM Dave Fields drago@primenet.com John McGeehan dsm@majure.com David McPherson dsonnen@deltanet.com David Sonnenberg dsreyn@ll.mit.edu Doug Reynolds eaking@ulape.demon.co.uk Edward King ejsmall@hom.net Edward Small EMorris217@aol.com E. C. Morris eoates@ix.netcom.com Edward A. Oates evan0066@tc.umn.edu Josh Evans ExtremeRev@aol.com fear@menagerie.net John Martin feldman2@tcnj.edu Andrew Feldman ferral@scsn.net Sean McGuinness fjklemm@wam.umd.edu Francis J. Klemm fred@eatel.net Frederick J. Barnett galactus@nassau.cv.net William Pepitone Gancarski@aol.com Anthony Gancarski garyl1@ix.netcom.com Gary Lubin gbacon@pluto.cs.uah.edu Greg Bacon gcswede@pclink.com Gern Blanston gdkuehne@aol.com Glenn Kuehne geolodick3@email.msn.com George J. Lodick III gregg@vnet.net Greg Gershowitz gs102@k102.com Catherine Swedberg gsasuke@primenet.com Lee Morey gum@startext.net Glen Gum hbelkins@mis.net H.B. Elkins heirdirector@hotmale.com Richard Bressler herberg@cs.und.edu Evan P. Herberg herrtk@erols.com Todd Herr hfung@lerami.lerctr.org Hank Fung (SoCalTip) hh299@cleveland.Freenet.Edu Jim Baranovich igor@algebra.com Igor Chudov @ home irodriguez@worldnet.att.net Israel Rodriguez iturrija@globalserve.net James Iturriaga jacob@coshocton.com Jacob W. Michaels jadcorti@artspas.watstar.uwaterloo.ca Doug Corti jadmakarem@bigfoot.com Jad Makarem jamsmith@usibr01.usi.edu Jim Smith jdholmes@force.stwing.upenn.edu Joshua Holmes jdwalker@post.cis.smu.edu John D. Walker jefam@home.com Jeff Amdur Jeff.Holmbeck@veritas.com Jeff Holmbeck jesoria@earthlink.net =?ISO-2022-JP?Q?Jeremy_Soria?= jfn@enteract.com Jeremy Nelson jfoy@muq.org Jeff Foy JimNeibaur@aol.com jjacobs@rs6000.cmp.ilstu.edu James T. Jacobs jkalyn@sk.sympatico.ca James Kalyn jkaufman420@yahoo.com Jason Kaufman JLiger@aol.com Frank J. Horr joesucec@iw1.net Joe Sucec john.naugle@bozax.iainc.net John Naugle johndwilliams@worldnet.att.net John D. Williams johnh@design.tide.ti.com John V Hall johnschiap@msn.com John Schiaparelli joneshenry@hotmail.com Henry Jones jpc@drum.msfc.nasa.gov J. Porter Clark jpjarlet@unity.ncsu.edu Jeff Jarlett jquinton@backroads.net Jeff Quinton jrj@access.digex.net Joseph R. Justice jtc@crosslink.net Jay T. Carrigan judcox@istar.ca Judson Cox julesd@edifax.com Jules Dubois jushin_bomb@hotmail.com Rob Blake JV29@aol.com John Vuch kam@kih.net Kevin R. Fields kdg977@dialnet.net Kevin Green kingevan@flash.net Evan Schlesinger kluther@indiana.edu kenneth harold luther ktp@thai.com Khantipol Kasemsant Laret@aol.com Rob Newland lariat@ix.netcom.com Dave Scherer leo_keil@icpphil.navy.mil Leo Keil LIONHEART666@compuserve.com BHR Lobotomiser@maitreya.demon.co.uk The Lobotomiser magical@borg.com Russell A. 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