From tale@uunet.uu.net Thu Jun 27 10:34:23 1996 Path: uunet!in2.uu.net!bounce-back From: tale@uunet.uu.net (David C Lawrence) Newsgroups: rec.travel.resorts.all-inclusive Subject: cmsg newgroup rec.travel.resorts.all-inclusive moderated Control: newgroup rec.travel.resorts.all-inclusive moderated Approved: newgroups-request@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: <835885821.1985@uunet.uu.net> Date: Thu, 27 Jun 1996 14:30:21 GMT Lines: 77 X-Info: ftp://ftp.uu.net/networking/news/misc/pgpcontrol/README.html ftp://ftp.uu.net/networking/news/misc/pgpcontrol/README X-PGP-Sig: 2.7 Subject,Control,Message-ID,Date,From,Sender iQCVAgUBMdKa/cJdOtO4janBAQHVtwP/QrtOwbMjn8Zc5EAoNjK2vmbmR20DdnSR sHk+wjsbXbs2vnk05vEO5ZIvj+EXxvq1Ybie+825WmHB7F9ktJZFSX/OXmyA4pcW BfsM11/xYevfL9iTydoiZ3acj+xEP3X6miolCm5AQEG7TnmfDqfg97+7DdsBYwOa vM1COKCyZ38= =Ww2Q Xref: uunet control.newgroup:14192 rec.travel.resorts.all-inclusive is a moderated newsgroup which passed its vote for creation by 127:26 as reported in news.announce.newgroups on 22 Jun 1996. Group submission address: hsegal@usa.net Moderator contact address: hsegal@usa.net (Hal Segal) For your newsgroups file: rec.travel.resorts.all-inclusive All-inclusive resorts. (Moderated) The charter, culled from the vote result announcement: To discuss and compare all-inclusive resorts. This includes Club Med and Club Med's competitors, where all lodging, meals, sports instruction, and entertainment are included in the package price. The only common exceptions to the everything-included- in-one-price plan are alcoholic drinks and side-trips outside the resort. Some resorts include these and some do not. In the travel and hotel field, the generally accepted 3-part definition of an "all-inclusive resort" is one that (1) includes lodging, all meals, and entertainment, (2) includes all tips and taxes, and (3) includes all the guests at the resort as part of the all-inclusive plan. Thus, a resort that offers an optional meal plan would not be considered an all-inclusive resort. The 100+ location Club Med chain is the originator of the all-inclusive resort concept, and there are now approximately 100 additional resorts that also meet the definition. A complete list of these resorts would be posted. Articles and comments would be welcome from people who have visited the resorts with their opinions, and from people who are interested in visiting resorts with their questions about each one. Advertising or solicitation would not be allowed. Moderation Policies: It is proposed that rec.travel.resorts.all-inclusive be moderated, and that rec.travel.resorts.misc not be moderated. The main purpose of having a moderator for rec.travel.resorts.all-inclusive is to uphold the charter of the group and reject articles that do not conform to it. There are many many hotels that claim to be all-inclusive which are not, in fact, all-inclusive by the generally-accepted 3-part definition. Indeed, if the group were not moderated, questions and comments about the many non-all-inclusive resorts could easily overwhelm the discussion of true all-inclusives. Samples of the kinds of questions and comments from participants that might appear in the moderated group: "I'm thinking of traveling to Club Med Cancun. Is it good for singles?" (answer: yes, one of the best) (another answer: well, I'm single and I hated Cancun...) "What would be a good inclusive resort for a family traveling with teenagers?" (answer: the family-oriented locations like Club Med Punta Cana are also good for teens) "I just returned from Sandals in Montego Bay, Jamaica, and discovered something that is not in the brochure: it's located right at the end of the Montego Bay airport runway!" (exactly the kind of comment that is very valuable) Samples of comments that would be excluded in the moderated group: "Can anybody tell me about the Eden Roc Hotel on Miami Beach?" (not all-inclusive -- the poster would be directed to rec.travel.resorts.misc) "The BEST TRAVEL AGENCY handles all the resorts mentioned here. We are very friendly and would love your business, so call us fast and mention this and we'll give you a FREE BEACH BAG!" (advertising) "For a free introductory minute of phone sex, call..." (not on the topic) From tale@uunet.uu.net Thu Jul 4 10:34:04 1996 Path: uunet!in2.uu.net!bounce-back From: tale@uunet.uu.net (David C Lawrence) Newsgroups: rec.travel.resorts.all-inclusive Subject: cmsg newgroup rec.travel.resorts.all-inclusive moderated Control: newgroup rec.travel.resorts.all-inclusive moderated Approved: newgroups-request@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: <836490602.18275@uunet.uu.net> Date: Thu, 4 Jul 1996 14:30:02 GMT Lines: 77 X-Info: ftp://ftp.uu.net/networking/news/misc/pgpcontrol/README.html ftp://ftp.uu.net/networking/news/misc/pgpcontrol/README X-PGP-Sig: 2.7 Subject,Control,Message-ID,Date,From,Sender iQCVAgUBMdvVa8JdOtO4janBAQEDBQQAgelnuPY381Z10wW+CkjC3iB1XLDTcbNH HDWbzKFBQ0DIvAfL3mBUlAwDd/XpMEaI40wKW+uuGjd0604GP4gml8/pNGeVJQC0 WMK1QmYw/2KqF546nzivRVwiEkcEv2Uc8blto0tByYYdckyJk2QcBm+XOEPjk0ws B0CQERehFWY= =iNy+ Xref: uunet control.newgroup:14433 rec.travel.resorts.all-inclusive is a moderated newsgroup which passed its vote for creation by 127:26 as reported in news.announce.newgroups on 22 Jun 1996. Group submission address: hsegal@usa.net Moderator contact address: hsegal@usa.net (Hal Segal) For your newsgroups file: rec.travel.resorts.all-inclusive All-inclusive resorts. (Moderated) The charter, culled from the vote result announcement: To discuss and compare all-inclusive resorts. This includes Club Med and Club Med's competitors, where all lodging, meals, sports instruction, and entertainment are included in the package price. The only common exceptions to the everything-included- in-one-price plan are alcoholic drinks and side-trips outside the resort. Some resorts include these and some do not. In the travel and hotel field, the generally accepted 3-part definition of an "all-inclusive resort" is one that (1) includes lodging, all meals, and entertainment, (2) includes all tips and taxes, and (3) includes all the guests at the resort as part of the all-inclusive plan. Thus, a resort that offers an optional meal plan would not be considered an all-inclusive resort. The 100+ location Club Med chain is the originator of the all-inclusive resort concept, and there are now approximately 100 additional resorts that also meet the definition. A complete list of these resorts would be posted. Articles and comments would be welcome from people who have visited the resorts with their opinions, and from people who are interested in visiting resorts with their questions about each one. Advertising or solicitation would not be allowed. Moderation Policies: It is proposed that rec.travel.resorts.all-inclusive be moderated, and that rec.travel.resorts.misc not be moderated. The main purpose of having a moderator for rec.travel.resorts.all-inclusive is to uphold the charter of the group and reject articles that do not conform to it. There are many many hotels that claim to be all-inclusive which are not, in fact, all-inclusive by the generally-accepted 3-part definition. Indeed, if the group were not moderated, questions and comments about the many non-all-inclusive resorts could easily overwhelm the discussion of true all-inclusives. Samples of the kinds of questions and comments from participants that might appear in the moderated group: "I'm thinking of traveling to Club Med Cancun. Is it good for singles?" (answer: yes, one of the best) (another answer: well, I'm single and I hated Cancun...) "What would be a good inclusive resort for a family traveling with teenagers?" (answer: the family-oriented locations like Club Med Punta Cana are also good for teens) "I just returned from Sandals in Montego Bay, Jamaica, and discovered something that is not in the brochure: it's located right at the end of the Montego Bay airport runway!" (exactly the kind of comment that is very valuable) Samples of comments that would be excluded in the moderated group: "Can anybody tell me about the Eden Roc Hotel on Miami Beach?" (not all-inclusive -- the poster would be directed to rec.travel.resorts.misc) "The BEST TRAVEL AGENCY handles all the resorts mentioned here. We are very friendly and would love your business, so call us fast and mention this and we'll give you a FREE BEACH BAG!" (advertising) "For a free introductory minute of phone sex, call..." (not on the topic) From tale@uunet.uu.net Sat Jul 27 10:40:08 1996 Path: uunet!in2.uu.net!bounce-back From: tale@uunet.uu.net (David C Lawrence) Newsgroups: rec.travel.resorts.all-inclusive Subject: cmsg newgroup rec.travel.resorts.all-inclusive moderated Control: newgroup rec.travel.resorts.all-inclusive moderated Approved: newgroups-request@uunet.uu.net Message-ID: <838477803.6945@uunet.uu.net> Date: Sat, 27 Jul 1996 14:30:03 GMT Lines: 77 X-Info: ftp://ftp.uu.net/networking/news/misc/pgpcontrol/README.html ftp://ftp.uu.net/networking/news/misc/pgpcontrol/README X-PGP-Sig: 2.7 Subject,Control,Message-ID,Date,From,Sender iQCVAgUBMfon7cJdOtO4janBAQHR0QQAls+Vh5HE3Z5sJNgd3/pL6jazNHH9H1Qr 1BuZJ7P6G9ZpmCKkLyJf4/9v7V7iNx4wYssZ3NHZ9jy3xzL5Z+CJHXaqiq3C4m82 22oNQcJ+NNnFfQ3OulruMdBZLcA7q8BJT6fkvNw4+LxDIm1FsK22wYEfJLjem61f AyQG5N6M11k= =OkYD Xref: uunet control.newgroup:15024 rec.travel.resorts.all-inclusive is a moderated newsgroup which passed its vote for creation by 127:26 as reported in news.announce.newgroups on 22 Jun 1996. Group submission address: hsegal@usa.net Moderator contact address: hsegal@usa.net (Hal Segal) For your newsgroups file: rec.travel.resorts.all-inclusive All-inclusive resorts. (Moderated) The charter, culled from the vote result announcement: To discuss and compare all-inclusive resorts. This includes Club Med and Club Med's competitors, where all lodging, meals, sports instruction, and entertainment are included in the package price. The only common exceptions to the everything-included- in-one-price plan are alcoholic drinks and side-trips outside the resort. Some resorts include these and some do not. In the travel and hotel field, the generally accepted 3-part definition of an "all-inclusive resort" is one that (1) includes lodging, all meals, and entertainment, (2) includes all tips and taxes, and (3) includes all the guests at the resort as part of the all-inclusive plan. Thus, a resort that offers an optional meal plan would not be considered an all-inclusive resort. The 100+ location Club Med chain is the originator of the all-inclusive resort concept, and there are now approximately 100 additional resorts that also meet the definition. A complete list of these resorts would be posted. Articles and comments would be welcome from people who have visited the resorts with their opinions, and from people who are interested in visiting resorts with their questions about each one. Advertising or solicitation would not be allowed. Moderation Policies: It is proposed that rec.travel.resorts.all-inclusive be moderated, and that rec.travel.resorts.misc not be moderated. The main purpose of having a moderator for rec.travel.resorts.all-inclusive is to uphold the charter of the group and reject articles that do not conform to it. There are many many hotels that claim to be all-inclusive which are not, in fact, all-inclusive by the generally-accepted 3-part definition. Indeed, if the group were not moderated, questions and comments about the many non-all-inclusive resorts could easily overwhelm the discussion of true all-inclusives. Samples of the kinds of questions and comments from participants that might appear in the moderated group: "I'm thinking of traveling to Club Med Cancun. Is it good for singles?" (answer: yes, one of the best) (another answer: well, I'm single and I hated Cancun...) "What would be a good inclusive resort for a family traveling with teenagers?" (answer: the family-oriented locations like Club Med Punta Cana are also good for teens) "I just returned from Sandals in Montego Bay, Jamaica, and discovered something that is not in the brochure: it's located right at the end of the Montego Bay airport runway!" (exactly the kind of comment that is very valuable) Samples of comments that would be excluded in the moderated group: "Can anybody tell me about the Eden Roc Hotel on Miami Beach?" (not all-inclusive -- the poster would be directed to rec.travel.resorts.misc) "The BEST TRAVEL AGENCY handles all the resorts mentioned here. We are very friendly and would love your business, so call us fast and mention this and we'll give you a FREE BEACH BAG!" (advertising) "For a free introductory minute of phone sex, call..." (not on the topic)