From y-pisan@nwu.edu Wed Oct 8 19:00:05 1997 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: Yusuf Pisan Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.kurdish,soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.arabic,soc.culture.pakistan,talk.politics.mideast Subject: RFD: soc.culture.turkish.moderated moderated Followup-To: news.groups Message-ID: <876361513.25904@isc.org> Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org Archive-Name: soc.culture.turkish.moderated Date: Thu, 09 Oct 1997 01:45:13 GMT Lines: 318 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:832 REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) moderated group soc.culture.turkish.moderated This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of a worldwide moderated Usenet newsgroup soc.culture.turkish.moderated. This is not a Call for Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time. Procedural details are below. All follow-up discussion should be on news.groups. Any discussion on other newsgroups should be crossposted to news.groups. Newsgroup line: soc.culture.turkish.moderated Turkiye/Turkey and related issues. (Moderated) RATIONALE: soc.culture.turkish.moderated Currently, there is a specific newsgroup on the Internet soc.culture.turkish (SCT) which is the only discussion group for issues relating to Turkey. While SCT has enjoyed a large group of participants, the quality of articles has changed in the last couple of years: * Large amount of crossposting to newsgroups that are hostile to soc.culture.turkish has created a hostile environment in SCT (approximately 25% of articles are crossposted to more than 3 newsgroups) * An increased hostility within SCT and members of other groups which has created an increase in name calling and use of disposable accounts to spread hatred. * Approximately 20% of articles have less than 1/3 original text as a result of increased hostility. * Almost all users who have posted to SCT have had public insults against them which has resulted in a lot of readers to stay quiet or leave. * The heavy traffic on SCT combined with people swearing at each other makes it difficult to find the original articles. * Many readers have chosen to leave SCT due to increased hostility. soc.culture.turkish.moderated will once again offer a civilized place of discussion and attract past users as well as new users. The name chosen for this group is soc.culture.turkish.moderated, which is reflects its proposed content and its origins. This newsgroup is not intended to replace soc.culture.turkish. soc.culture.turkish will remain as an unmoderated forum. Instead, soc.culture.turkish.moderated will offer an alternative, less hostile area for discussion. I and the subscribers feel that a moderated newsgroup is necessary to keep the peace and ensure that articles make at least a good faith attempt to obey the charter rules. CHARTER: soc.culture.turkish.moderated This group would encourage posting of material relating to Turkey (Turkiye) and all issues related to Turkey. All articles which in some way relates to Turkey will be welcomes in the group. Legitimate topics include but are not limited to: Turkish language, history, politics, universities, cultural centers, announcement of related web pages and mailing lists, places to visit in Turkey, current and past leaders of Turkey. Articles will be rejected if they fall into any of the categories below: * Articles that are not related in any way to Turkey * Chain letters, pyramid schemes, mass non-Turkey related advertisement, "Adult" type material, binary files (PGP signatures and small binaries related to authentication are OK) * Articles including insults, swear words or explicit threats to individuals or groups * Duplicate messages (identical postings or postings conveying the same idea using different words) * Articles with less than 1/3 new material or less than 3 lines of original text. * Articles crossposted to more than 5 newsgroups. * Crossposted articles that do not have a "Followup-To:" header indicating which newsgroup further discussion should take place. * Articles crossposted to groups not related to Turkey or the current subject (such as crossposts to alt.sex, or misc.test) * Ads must be clearly labeled as "[AD]" or "[REKLAM]" in the subject line, must be related to Turkey in some way and cannot be posted more than once every 2 months. All articles that are related to Turkey will be welcome. No article will be rejected based on content or subject unless they fall into one of the categories above. soc.culture.turkish.moderated is bound by rules that regulate usenet articles and soc.culture.* hierarchy. The moderators will make their best effort to make sure that these policies are followed but try to maintain a free flow of information otherwise. Moderation Policy: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Soc.culture.turkish.moderated shall make use of the STUMP RoboModeration program developed by Igor Chudov . For more information on STUMP, see . In addition to RoboModeration there will be team of human moderators. The RoboModerator first will screen every article submitted to soc.culture.turkish. RoboModerator will take one of three courses of action: reject the submission automatically, post the submission automatically, or forward the submission to the human moderation panel for review. RoboModerator will always send the Charter and other relevant information about soc.culture.turkish.moderated to first time posters. RoboModerator will reject the article if * the article is a duplicate * the article containes less than 1/3 new material or less than 3 lines of original text. * the article is crossposted to more than 5 newsgroups or the crossposted article does not have a "Followup-To:" header indicating the appropriate group for discussion. * the article is a binary posting (except PGP signatures and binaries less than 2K) RoboModerator will forward the article to moderators if * the articles contains one of the specified keywords such as "Make Money Fast", "Adult Pictures", "stupid asshole". The keywords will be decided by the majority of the moderation team. RoboModerator will post the article if * the article is from an established reader of soc.culture.turkish.moderated and does not contain any of the specified keywords which would force the RoboModerator to forward the article instead. An established reader is any reader who has a track record of posts that have been accepted to soc.culture.turkish.moderated. A poster shall be granted established user status by a majority vote of moderators after he/she has had an article accepted to soc.culture.turkish.moderated. A poster will be taken off the established reader list after 3 rejected articles or by a majority vote of the moderators. It is possible that a user will submit articles that will be posted that are against the Charter of soc.culture.turkish.moderated. These articles will be canceled by the moderation team if the majority of the moderation team agrees to the cancelation of the articles. If the posting was due to the RoboModerator, the RoboModerator program and the list of established users will be changed as necessary. If the acceptance was due to a moderator accepting the article. A voting will be done to determine if the moderator that approved the articles should be dismissed. If there is a 2/3 majority the moderator will be dismissed. Forged articles or articles that get posted due to errors in the RoboModerator will be canceled by the moderators. PGPMoose program will be run on several different sites to ensure that soc.culture.turkish.moderated is free of SPAM and forgeries. Articles that are forwarded to the moderator will be accepted or rejected in accordance with the Charter for soc.culture.turkish.moderated. Rejected articles will always contain the reasons for rejection. A poster whose article is rejected can appeal the decision to the team of moderators. If majority of moderators agree or the moderators are evenly split the article will be posted. Moderators will make their best effort to create a suitable discussion forum on soc.culture.turkish.moderated. It is possible that a user will flood the newsgroup with articles to prevent discussion, submit variations of the same articles periodically or try to prevent discussion in ways unforseen at this time. The moderators will use their discretion to reject articles intended to disrupt discussion. As with all submissions, a majority of moderators is required to reject articles. In general users should follow the guidelines posted by Mark Moraes in news.announce.newusers under the subject: Rules for posting to Usenet (this document can also be found on the web at: http://www.netannounce.org/news.announce.newusers/) The reason that we have a moderated group is to keep this group focused and to filter out the stuff that drive most people out of other groups. Since moderation is not in place to censure ideas, or limit debate every effort will be made to automate the moderation process, thus keeping the flow of ideas continuous. Becoming a moderator: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Any user can appeal to the panel of moderators and request to be added to the moderation team. A new moderator will be added if there is 2/3 majority for his/her acceptance. Process for replacing moderators: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ If a moderator does not attend to his/her moderation duties for 30 consecutive days, he/she will be assumed to have left the moderation team. Although moderators are free to leave any time, it is expected that they will make a good faith effort to find a candidate before they leave. The candidate needs 2/3 majority to be accepted as a moderator. Any user can bring a complaint to the moderation panel if he/she feels his/her articles have been rejected unfairly by submitting 5 articles which he/she believes were wrongfully rejected. The moderation panel will review the articles and take necessary action. If the rejection is due to robomoderator, the program will be modified. If the rejection is due to a rogue moderator the moderation panel will vote whether the moderator should be dismissed. If there is 2/3 majority to dismiss the rogue moderator, the rogue moderator will be dismissed. If a moderator approves an article that the majority of the moderation team agrees is against the Charter, the article in question will be canceled. If there is a 2/3 majority agreement that the moderator accepted the article knowing it was against the Charter, the moderator will be dismissed. Accountability of Moderators: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The panel of human moderators shall maintain a log of its activities. This log shall be posted once every two months, thus making the moderators accountable to the readership. The specific keywords that force the RoboModerator to send an article to the moderators will also be posted at this time. END CHARTER. MODERATOR INFO: soc.culture.turkish.moderated Moderator: Zafer Bozkus Moderator: Hasan Baha CAYIR Moderator: Yusuf Pisan Moderator: Uzman Moderator: Huseyin Vural Administrative contact address: y-pisan@nwu.edu Submission Address: sctm@bigfoot.com END MODERATOR INFO. PROCEDURE: This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes. In this phase of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroup should be raised and resolved. The discussion period will continue for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the RFD for this proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups), after which a Call For Votes (CFV) may be posted by a neutral vote taker if the discussion warrants it. Please do not attempt to vote until this happens. All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups. This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup creation guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "How to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal". Please refer to these documents (available in news.announce.newgroups) if you have any questions about the process. END PROCEDURE. DISTRIBUTION: This RFD is being posted to the following newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups news.groups soc.culture.turkish soc.culture.greek soc.culture.kurdish soc.religion.islam soc.culture.iranian soc.culture.arabic soc.culture.pakistan talk.politics.mideast and to the following mailing lists TRKNWS-L Turkish news mailing list Send email to to subscribe ANADOLU To subscribe email to "sub ANADOLU e-mail Name Lastname" Additional information concerning the creation of this newsgroup is available at: All reasonable effort has been made to make this document accessible to all parties that would be interested in the creation of soc.culture.turkish.moderated. Proponent: Yusuf Pisan From y-pisan@nwu.edu Mon Oct 13 15:15:06 1997 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: Yusuf Pisan Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.kurdish,soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.arabic,soc.culture.pakistan,talk.politics.mideast Subject: 2nd RFD: soc.culture.turkish.moderated moderated Followup-To: news.groups Message-ID: <876780302.12742@isc.org> Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org Archive-Name: soc.culture.turkish.moderated Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 22:05:02 GMT Lines: 347 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:850 REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) moderated group soc.culture.turkish.moderated This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of a worldwide moderated Usenet newsgroup soc.culture.turkish.moderated. This is not a Call for Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time. Procedural details are below. All follow-up discussion should be on news.groups. Any discussion on other newsgroups should be crossposted to news.groups. Changes from the previous RFD: 1) Minor typos fixed 2) Clarified when the RoboModerator will forward articles 3) Clarified that 2/3 majority of moderators is needed to become or dismiss a moderator 4) Changed Newsgroups line to include Turks as well as Turkey 5) Stressed lack of relevant content in SCT. 6) Clarified that moderation team will only cancel forgeries and that the moderation team will post explanations for articles that are distributed as a result of robomoderator or moderator error, but will not cancel such articles. Newsgroup line: soc.culture.turkish.moderated Issues related to Turks/Turkey. (Moderated) RATIONALE: soc.culture.turkish.moderated Currently, there is a specific newsgroup on the Internet soc.culture.turkish (SCT) which is the only discussion group for issues relating to Turkey. While SCT has enjoyed a large group of participants, the quality of articles has changed in the last couple of years: * Large amount of crossposting to newsgroups that are hostile to soc.culture.turkish has created a hostile environment in SCT (approximately 25% of articles are crossposted to more than 3 newsgroups) * An increased hostility within SCT and members of other groups which has created an increase in name calling and use of disposable accounts to spread hatred. * Approximately 20% of articles have less than 1/3 original text as a result of increased hostility. * Almost all users who have posted to SCT have had public insults against them which has resulted in a lot of readers to stay quiet or leave. * The heavy traffic on SCT combined with people swearing at each other makes it difficult to find the original articles. * Many readers have chosen to leave SCT due to increased hostility and lack of relevant articles about Turkey and Turks. soc.culture.turkish.moderated will once again offer a civilized place of discussion and attract past users as well as new users. The name chosen for this group is soc.culture.turkish.moderated, which is reflects its proposed content and its origins. This newsgroup is not intended to replace soc.culture.turkish. soc.culture.turkish will remain as an unmoderated forum. Instead, soc.culture.turkish.moderated will offer an alternative, less hostile area for discussion. I and the subscribers feel that a moderated newsgroup is necessary to keep the peace and ensure that articles make at least a good faith attempt to obey the charter rules. CHARTER: soc.culture.turkish.moderated This group would encourage posting of material relating to Turks and Turkey (Turkiye) and all issues related to Turkey. All articles which in some way relates to Turkey will be welcomes in the group. Legitimate topics include but are not limited to: Turkish language, history, politics, universities, cultural centers, announcement of related web pages and mailing lists, places to visit in Turkey, current and past leaders of Turkey as well as problems and concerns of Turks living inside or outside of Turkey. Articles will be rejected if they fall into any of the categories below: * Articles that are not related in any way to Turkey or Turks. * Chain letters, pyramid schemes, mass non-Turkey related advertisement, "Adult" type material, binary files (PGP signatures and small binaries related to authentication are OK) * Articles including insults, swear words or explicit threats to individuals or groups * Duplicate postings or postings that qualify as "substantively equal" according to the current Spam cancel guidelines won't be accepted even if they don't have a Breidbart index of 20 or more. * Articles with less than 1/3 new material or less than 3 lines of original text. * Articles crossposted to more than 5 newsgroups. * Crossposted articles that do not have a "Followup-To:" header indicating which newsgroup further discussion should take place. The Followup-To header must contain "poster" or up to 3 newsgroups. * Articles crossposted to groups not related to Turkey or the current subject (such as crossposts to alt.sex, or misc.test) * Ads must be clearly labeled as "[AD]" or "[REKLAM]" in the subject line, must be related to Turkey in some way and cannot be posted more than once every 2 months. All articles that are related to Turkey or Turks will be welcome. No article will be rejected based on content or subject unless they fall into one of the categories above. soc.culture.turkish.moderated is bound by rules that regulate usenet articles and soc.culture.* hierarchy. The moderators will make their best effort to make sure that these policies are followed but try to maintain a free flow of information otherwise. Moderation Policy: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Soc.culture.turkish.moderated shall make use of the STUMP RoboModeration program developed by Igor Chudov . For more information on STUMP, see . In addition to RoboModeration there will be team of human moderators. The RoboModerator first will screen every article submitted to soc.culture.turkish.moderated. RoboModerator will take one of three courses of action: reject the submission automatically, post the submission automatically, or forward the submission to the human moderation panel for review. RoboModerator will always send the Charter and other relevant information about soc.culture.turkish.moderated to first time posters. RoboModerator will reject the article if * the article is a duplicate or "substantively equal" to a previous article according to the current spam cancel guidelines * the article contains less than 1/3 new material or less than 3 lines of original text. * the article is crossposted to more than 5 newsgroups or the crossposted article does not have a "Followup-To:" header. All corssposted articles must have "Followup-To:" header containing contain 'poster' or a maximum of 3 newsgroups indicating where discussion should be directed. * the article is a binary posting (except PGP signatures and binaries less than 2K) RoboModerator will post the article if * the article is from an established reader of soc.culture.turkish.moderated and does not contain any keywords such as "Make Money Fast", "Adult Pictures", "stupid asshole". The specified keywords will be decided by a majority of the moderation team. If the article does contain any of these keywords, the article will be forwarded to the moderators. The moderators can ask established users to use PGP if abusers start using fake email addresses to appear as if they are on the established user list to get their articles approved automatically. RoboModerator will forward the article to moderators if * the article is from an established user but contains at least one of the specified keywords decided by the moderators * the article is not from an established user and requires moderator approval before being distributed. An established reader is any reader who has a track record of posts that have been accepted to soc.culture.turkish.moderated. A poster shall be granted established user status by a majority vote of moderators after he/she has had an article accepted to soc.culture.turkish.moderated. A poster will be taken off the established reader list after 3 rejected articles or by a majority vote of the moderators. If an article is distributed to soc.culture.turkish.moderated due to forgery (such fake Approved: header, someone pretending to be a user on the established list) the article will be canceled by PGPMoose or the appropriate software. If an article is distributed due to moderator or robomoderator errors, an explanation will be posted to the newsgroups the article was distributed and steps will be taken to prevent similar errors in the future. Articles that are forwarded to the moderator will be accepted or rejected in accordance with the Charter for soc.culture.turkish.moderated. Rejected articles will always contain the reasons for rejection. A poster whose article is rejected can appeal the decision to the team of moderators. If majority of moderators agree or the moderators are evenly split the article will be posted. Moderators will make their best effort to create a suitable discussion forum on soc.culture.turkish.moderated. It is possible that a user will flood the newsgroup with articles to prevent discussion, submit variations of the same articles periodically or try to prevent discussion in ways unforseen at this time. The moderators will use their discretion to reject articles intended to disrupt discussion. As with all submissions, a majority of moderators is required to reject articles. In general users should follow the guidelines posted by Mark Moraes in news.announce.newusers under the subject: Rules for posting to Usenet (this document can also be found on the web at: http://www.netannounce.org/news.announce.newusers/) The reason that we have a moderated group is to keep this group focused and to filter out the stuff that drive most people out of other groups. Since moderation is not in place to censure ideas, or limit debate every effort will be made to automate the moderation process, thus keeping the flow of ideas continuous. Becoming a moderator: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Any user can appeal to the panel of moderators and request to be added to the moderation team. A new moderator will be added if there is 2/3 majority among moderators for his/her acceptance. Process for replacing moderators: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ If a moderator does not attend to his/her moderation duties for 30 consecutive days, he/she will be assumed to have left the moderation team. Although moderators are free to leave any time, it is expected that they will make a good faith effort to find a candidate before they leave. Any candidate for a moderator needs 2/3 majority of the moderators to be accepted. A moderator cannot assign his/her position over to someone else. Any user can bring a complaint to the moderation panel if he/she feels his/her articles have been rejected unfairly by submitting 5 articles which he/she believes were wrongfully rejected. The moderation panel will review the articles and take necessary action. If the rejection is due to robomoderator, the program will be modified. If the rejection is due to a rogue moderator the moderation panel will vote whether the moderator should be dismissed. If there is 2/3 majority among moderators to dismiss the rogue moderator, the rogue moderator will be dismissed. If a moderator approves an article that the majority of the moderation team agrees is against the Charter, the article in question will be canceled. If there is a 2/3 majority agreement among moderators that the moderator accepted the article knowing it was against the Charter, the moderator will be dismissed. Accountability of Moderators: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The panel of human moderators shall maintain a log of its activities. This log shall be posted once every two months, thus making the moderators accountable to the readership. The specific keywords that force the RoboModerator to send an article to the moderators will also be posted at this time. END CHARTER. MODERATOR INFO: soc.culture.turkish.moderated Moderator: Zafer Bozkus Moderator: Hasan Baha CAYIR Moderator: Yusuf Pisan Moderator: Uzman Moderator: Huseyin Vural Administrative contact address: sctm-moderators@bigfoot.com Submission Address: sctm@bigfoot.com END MODERATOR INFO. PROCEDURE: This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes. In this phase of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroup should be raised and resolved. The discussion period will continue for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the RFD for this proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups), after which a Call For Votes (CFV) may be posted by a neutral vote taker if the discussion warrants it. Please do not attempt to vote until this happens. All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups. This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup creation guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "How to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal". Please refer to these documents (available in news.announce.newgroups) if you have any questions about the process. END PROCEDURE. DISTRIBUTION: This RFD is being posted to the following newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups news.groups soc.culture.turkish soc.culture.greek soc.culture.kurdish soc.culture.iranian soc.culture.arabic soc.culture.pakistan talk.politics.mideast and to the following mailing lists TRKNWS-L Turkish news mailing list Send email to to subscribe ANADOLU To subscribe email to "sub ANADOLU e-mail Name Lastname" The official RFD as it appears on news.announce.newsgroups can be found from: Additional information concerning the creation of this newsgroup is available at: All reasonable effort has been made to make this document accessible to all parties that would be interested in the creation of soc.culture.turkish.moderated. Proponent: Yusuf Pisan From y-pisan@nwu.edu Sun Oct 19 14:03:03 1997 Path: news.isc.org!vixie!data.ramona.vix.com!sonysjc!sonybc!newsjunkie.ans.net!newsfeeds.ans.net!philabs!blanket.mitre.org!news.tufts.edu!cam-news-feed5.bbnplanet.com!cam-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!news-xfer.netaxs.com!news-peer.gsl.net!news.gsl.net!gip.net!news.idt.net!dispose.news.demon.net!demon!news-peer.bt.net!btnet-feed2!btnet!bmdhh222.bnr.ca!bcarh8ac.bnr.ca!southpower.co.nz!despams.ocunix.on.ca!resurrector!not-for-mail Message-ID: X-Reposted-By: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca X-Original-Path: ...!btnet-feed2!news-peer.bt.net!btnet!baron.netcom.net.uk!netcom.net.uk!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!sonysjc!vixie!news.isc.org!bounce-back From: Yusuf Pisan Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.kurdish,soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.arabic,soc.culture.pakistan,talk.politics.mideast Subject: [Reposted due to Enlow UCE cancel]: 2nd RFD: soc.culture.turkish.moderated moderated Followup-To: news.groups X-Original-Message-ID: <876780302.12742@isc.org> Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org Archive-Name: soc.culture.turkish.moderated Date: Mon, 13 Oct 1997 22:05:02 GMT X-Comments: DtR Repost: The following Usenet article was cancelled, X-Comments: more than likely by someone other than the original poster. X-Comments: Please see the end of this posting for a copy of the cancel. X-Comments: Dave the Resurrector can be contacted at dave@ferret.ocunix.on.ca Lines: 367 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:868 REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) moderated group soc.culture.turkish.moderated This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of a worldwide moderated Usenet newsgroup soc.culture.turkish.moderated. This is not a Call for Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time. Procedural details are below. All follow-up discussion should be on news.groups. Any discussion on other newsgroups should be crossposted to news.groups. Changes from the previous RFD: 1) Minor typos fixed 2) Clarified when the RoboModerator will forward articles 3) Clarified that 2/3 majority of moderators is needed to become or dismiss a moderator 4) Changed Newsgroups line to include Turks as well as Turkey 5) Stressed lack of relevant content in SCT. 6) Clarified that moderation team will only cancel forgeries and that the moderation team will post explanations for articles that are distributed as a result of robomoderator or moderator error, but will not cancel such articles. Newsgroup line: soc.culture.turkish.moderated Issues related to Turks/Turkey. (Moderated) RATIONALE: soc.culture.turkish.moderated Currently, there is a specific newsgroup on the Internet soc.culture.turkish (SCT) which is the only discussion group for issues relating to Turkey. While SCT has enjoyed a large group of participants, the quality of articles has changed in the last couple of years: * Large amount of crossposting to newsgroups that are hostile to soc.culture.turkish has created a hostile environment in SCT (approximately 25% of articles are crossposted to more than 3 newsgroups) * An increased hostility within SCT and members of other groups which has created an increase in name calling and use of disposable accounts to spread hatred. * Approximately 20% of articles have less than 1/3 original text as a result of increased hostility. * Almost all users who have posted to SCT have had public insults against them which has resulted in a lot of readers to stay quiet or leave. * The heavy traffic on SCT combined with people swearing at each other makes it difficult to find the original articles. * Many readers have chosen to leave SCT due to increased hostility and lack of relevant articles about Turkey and Turks. soc.culture.turkish.moderated will once again offer a civilized place of discussion and attract past users as well as new users. The name chosen for this group is soc.culture.turkish.moderated, which is reflects its proposed content and its origins. This newsgroup is not intended to replace soc.culture.turkish. soc.culture.turkish will remain as an unmoderated forum. Instead, soc.culture.turkish.moderated will offer an alternative, less hostile area for discussion. I and the subscribers feel that a moderated newsgroup is necessary to keep the peace and ensure that articles make at least a good faith attempt to obey the charter rules. CHARTER: soc.culture.turkish.moderated This group would encourage posting of material relating to Turks and Turkey (Turkiye) and all issues related to Turkey. All articles which in some way relates to Turkey will be welcomes in the group. Legitimate topics include but are not limited to: Turkish language, history, politics, universities, cultural centers, announcement of related web pages and mailing lists, places to visit in Turkey, current and past leaders of Turkey as well as problems and concerns of Turks living inside or outside of Turkey. Articles will be rejected if they fall into any of the categories below: * Articles that are not related in any way to Turkey or Turks. * Chain letters, pyramid schemes, mass non-Turkey related advertisement, "Adult" type material, binary files (PGP signatures and small binaries related to authentication are OK) * Articles including insults, swear words or explicit threats to individuals or groups * Duplicate postings or postings that qualify as "substantively equal" according to the current Spam cancel guidelines won't be accepted even if they don't have a Breidbart index of 20 or more. * Articles with less than 1/3 new material or less than 3 lines of original text. * Articles crossposted to more than 5 newsgroups. * Crossposted articles that do not have a "Followup-To:" header indicating which newsgroup further discussion should take place. The Followup-To header must contain "poster" or up to 3 newsgroups. * Articles crossposted to groups not related to Turkey or the current subject (such as crossposts to alt.sex, or misc.test) * Ads must be clearly labeled as "[AD]" or "[REKLAM]" in the subject line, must be related to Turkey in some way and cannot be posted more than once every 2 months. All articles that are related to Turkey or Turks will be welcome. No article will be rejected based on content or subject unless they fall into one of the categories above. soc.culture.turkish.moderated is bound by rules that regulate usenet articles and soc.culture.* hierarchy. The moderators will make their best effort to make sure that these policies are followed but try to maintain a free flow of information otherwise. Moderation Policy: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Soc.culture.turkish.moderated shall make use of the STUMP RoboModeration program developed by Igor Chudov . For more information on STUMP, see . In addition to RoboModeration there will be team of human moderators. The RoboModerator first will screen every article submitted to soc.culture.turkish.moderated. RoboModerator will take one of three courses of action: reject the submission automatically, post the submission automatically, or forward the submission to the human moderation panel for review. RoboModerator will always send the Charter and other relevant information about soc.culture.turkish.moderated to first time posters. RoboModerator will reject the article if * the article is a duplicate or "substantively equal" to a previous article according to the current spam cancel guidelines * the article contains less than 1/3 new material or less than 3 lines of original text. * the article is crossposted to more than 5 newsgroups or the crossposted article does not have a "Followup-To:" header. All corssposted articles must have "Followup-To:" header containing contain 'poster' or a maximum of 3 newsgroups indicating where discussion should be directed. * the article is a binary posting (except PGP signatures and binaries less than 2K) RoboModerator will post the article if * the article is from an established reader of soc.culture.turkish.moderated and does not contain any keywords such as "Make Money Fast", "Adult Pictures", "stupid asshole". The specified keywords will be decided by a majority of the moderation team. If the article does contain any of these keywords, the article will be forwarded to the moderators. The moderators can ask established users to use PGP if abusers start using fake email addresses to appear as if they are on the established user list to get their articles approved automatically. RoboModerator will forward the article to moderators if * the article is from an established user but contains at least one of the specified keywords decided by the moderators * the article is not from an established user and requires moderator approval before being distributed. An established reader is any reader who has a track record of posts that have been accepted to soc.culture.turkish.moderated. A poster shall be granted established user status by a majority vote of moderators after he/she has had an article accepted to soc.culture.turkish.moderated. A poster will be taken off the established reader list after 3 rejected articles or by a majority vote of the moderators. If an article is distributed to soc.culture.turkish.moderated due to forgery (such fake Approved: header, someone pretending to be a user on the established list) the article will be canceled by PGPMoose or the appropriate software. If an article is distributed due to moderator or robomoderator errors, an explanation will be posted to the newsgroups the article was distributed and steps will be taken to prevent similar errors in the future. Articles that are forwarded to the moderator will be accepted or rejected in accordance with the Charter for soc.culture.turkish.moderated. Rejected articles will always contain the reasons for rejection. A poster whose article is rejected can appeal the decision to the team of moderators. If majority of moderators agree or the moderators are evenly split the article will be posted. Moderators will make their best effort to create a suitable discussion forum on soc.culture.turkish.moderated. It is possible that a user will flood the newsgroup with articles to prevent discussion, submit variations of the same articles periodically or try to prevent discussion in ways unforseen at this time. The moderators will use their discretion to reject articles intended to disrupt discussion. As with all submissions, a majority of moderators is required to reject articles. In general users should follow the guidelines posted by Mark Moraes in news.announce.newusers under the subject: Rules for posting to Usenet (this document can also be found on the web at: http://www.netannounce.org/news.announce.newusers/) The reason that we have a moderated group is to keep this group focused and to filter out the stuff that drive most people out of other groups. Since moderation is not in place to censure ideas, or limit debate every effort will be made to automate the moderation process, thus keeping the flow of ideas continuous. Becoming a moderator: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Any user can appeal to the panel of moderators and request to be added to the moderation team. A new moderator will be added if there is 2/3 majority among moderators for his/her acceptance. Process for replacing moderators: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ If a moderator does not attend to his/her moderation duties for 30 consecutive days, he/she will be assumed to have left the moderation team. Although moderators are free to leave any time, it is expected that they will make a good faith effort to find a candidate before they leave. Any candidate for a moderator needs 2/3 majority of the moderators to be accepted. A moderator cannot assign his/her position over to someone else. Any user can bring a complaint to the moderation panel if he/she feels his/her articles have been rejected unfairly by submitting 5 articles which he/she believes were wrongfully rejected. The moderation panel will review the articles and take necessary action. If the rejection is due to robomoderator, the program will be modified. If the rejection is due to a rogue moderator the moderation panel will vote whether the moderator should be dismissed. If there is 2/3 majority among moderators to dismiss the rogue moderator, the rogue moderator will be dismissed. If a moderator approves an article that the majority of the moderation team agrees is against the Charter, the article in question will be canceled. If there is a 2/3 majority agreement among moderators that the moderator accepted the article knowing it was against the Charter, the moderator will be dismissed. Accountability of Moderators: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The panel of human moderators shall maintain a log of its activities. This log shall be posted once every two months, thus making the moderators accountable to the readership. The specific keywords that force the RoboModerator to send an article to the moderators will also be posted at this time. END CHARTER. MODERATOR INFO: soc.culture.turkish.moderated Moderator: Zafer Bozkus Moderator: Hasan Baha CAYIR Moderator: Yusuf Pisan Moderator: Uzman Moderator: Huseyin Vural Administrative contact address: sctm-moderators@bigfoot.com Submission Address: sctm@bigfoot.com END MODERATOR INFO. PROCEDURE: This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes. In this phase of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroup should be raised and resolved. The discussion period will continue for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the RFD for this proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups), after which a Call For Votes (CFV) may be posted by a neutral vote taker if the discussion warrants it. Please do not attempt to vote until this happens. All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups. This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup creation guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "How to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal". Please refer to these documents (available in news.announce.newgroups) if you have any questions about the process. END PROCEDURE. DISTRIBUTION: This RFD is being posted to the following newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups news.groups soc.culture.turkish soc.culture.greek soc.culture.kurdish soc.culture.iranian soc.culture.arabic soc.culture.pakistan talk.politics.mideast and to the following mailing lists TRKNWS-L Turkish news mailing list Send email to to subscribe ANADOLU To subscribe email to "sub ANADOLU e-mail Name Lastname" The official RFD as it appears on news.announce.newsgroups can be found from: Additional information concerning the creation of this newsgroup is available at: All reasonable effort has been made to make this document accessible to all parties that would be interested in the creation of soc.culture.turkish.moderated. Proponent: Yusuf Pisan ========= WAS CANCELLED BY =======: Rogue cancel from Michael Enlow, X-Cancelled-by etc. are forged. Control: cancel <876780302.12742@isc.org> Newsgroups: soc.culture.greek Path: ...!news.hn.netlink.co.nz!canterbury.ac.nz!southpower.co.nz!nobody From: rra@eyrie.org,sw@eyrie.org,rgm@eyrie.org Subject: cmsg cancel <876780302.12742@isc.org> Approved: rra@eyrie.org,sw@eyrie.org,rgm@eyrie.org Message-ID: X-No-Archive: Yes Sender: Yusuf Pisan X-Cancelled-By: rra@eyrie.org,sw@eyrie.org,rgm@eyrie.org Organization: Southpower Ltd Date: Sun, 19 Oct 1997 05:26:21 GMT Lines: 2 The article was canceled on 10/19/97 at 1:16:33 AM with the Usenet Cancel Engine (UCE). From y-pisan@nwu.edu Sun Oct 19 14:03:04 1997 Control: cancel Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back Message-ID: X-Reposted-By: clewis@ferret.ocunix.on.ca X-Original-Path: ...!btnet-feed2!news-peer.bt.net!btnet!baron.netcom.net.uk!netcom.net.uk!cpk-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!su-news-hub1.bbnplanet.com!news.bbnplanet.com!sonysjc!vixie!news.isc.org!bounce-back From: Yusuf Pisan Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.kurdish,soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.arabic,soc.culture.pakistan,talk.politics.mideast Subject: cmsg cancel Followup-To: news.groups X-Original-Message-ID: <876780302.12742@isc.org> Approved: tale@uunet.uu.net Archive-Name: soc.culture.turkish.moderated Date: 19 Oct 97 21:03:04 GMT X-Comments: DtR Repost: The following Usenet article was cancelled, X-Comments: more than likely by someone other than the original poster. X-Comments: Please see the end of this posting for a copy of the cancel. X-Comments: Dave the Resurrector can be contacted at dave@ferret.ocunix.on.ca Lines: 2 Xref: news.isc.org control.cancel:349 Unapproved article for news.announce.newgroups auto-cancelled by daemon on behalf of moderator. From y-pisan@nwu.edu Mon Oct 20 12:15:14 1997 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: Yusuf Pisan Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,soc.culture.turkish,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.kurdish,soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.arabic,soc.culture.pakistan,talk.politics.mideast Subject: 3rd RFD: soc.culture.turkish.moderated moderated Followup-To: news.groups Message-ID: <877374687.4792@isc.org> Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org Archive-Name: soc.culture.turkish.moderated Date: Mon, 20 Oct 1997 19:11:27 GMT Lines: 340 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:876 REQUEST FOR DISCUSSION (RFD) moderated group soc.culture.turkish.moderated This is a formal Request For Discussion (RFD) for the creation of a worldwide moderated Usenet newsgroup soc.culture.turkish.moderated. This is not a Call for Votes (CFV); you cannot vote at this time. Procedural details are below. All follow-up discussion should be on news.groups. Any discussion on other newsgroups should be crossposted to news.groups. CHANGES from previous RFD: 1) Minor typos fixed 2) Clarified that moderation team will only cancel forgeries and that the moderation team will post explanations for articles that are distributed as a result of RoboModerator or moderator error, but will not cancel such articles. Newsgroup line: soc.culture.turkish.moderated Issues related to Turks/Turkey. (Moderated) RATIONALE: soc.culture.turkish.moderated Currently, there is a specific newsgroup on the Internet soc.culture.turkish (SCT) which is the only discussion group for issues relating to Turkey. While SCT has enjoyed a large group of participants, the quality of articles has changed in the last couple of years: * Large amount of crossposting to other soc.culture.* newsgroups. Unfortunately, the cross-posting tends to create inter-cultural conflict rather than inter-cultural understanding. This is disruptive not only to soc.culture.turkish but to the other groups (approximately 25% of articles are crossposted to more than 3 newsgroups). * An increased hostility within SCT and members of other groups which has created an increase in name calling and use of disposable accounts to spread hatred. * Approximately 20% of articles have less than 1/3 original text as a result of increased hostility. * Almost all users who have posted to SCT have had public insults against them which has resulted in a lot of readers to stay quiet or leave. * The heavy traffic on SCT combined with people swearing at each other makes it difficult to find the original articles. * Many readers have chosen to leave SCT due to increased hostility and lack of relevant articles about Turkey and Turks. soc.culture.turkish.moderated will once again offer a civilized place of discussion and attract past users as well as new users. The name chosen for this group is soc.culture.turkish.moderated, which is reflects its proposed content and its origins. This newsgroup is not intended to replace soc.culture.turkish. soc.culture.turkish will remain as an unmoderated forum. Instead, soc.culture.turkish.moderated will offer an alternative, less hostile area for discussion. I and the subscribers feel that a moderated newsgroup is necessary to keep the peace and ensure that articles make at least a good faith attempt to obey the charter rules. CHARTER: soc.culture.turkish.moderated This group would encourage posting of material relating to Turks and Turkey (Turkiye). All articles which in some way relates to Turkey or Turks will be welcome in this group. Legitimate topics include but are not limited to: Turkish language, history, politics, universities, cultural centers, announcement of related web pages and mailing lists, places to visit in Turkey, current and past leaders of Turkey as well as problems and concerns of Turks living inside or outside of Turkey. Articles will be rejected if they fall into any of the categories below: * Articles that are not related in any way to Turkey or Turks. * Chain letters, pyramid schemes, mass non-Turkey related advertisement, "Adult" type material, binary or multipart postings (PGP signatures and small binaries related to authentication are OK) * Articles including insults, swear words or explicit threats to individuals or groups * Duplicate postings or postings that qualify as "substantively equal" according to the current spam cancel guidelines * Articles with less than 1/3 new material or less than 3 lines of original text. * Articles crossposted to more than 5 newsgroups. * Crossposted articles that do not have a "Followup-To:" header. The Followup-To header must be present for all crossposted articles and must contain "poster" or a maximum of 3 newsgroups indicating which newsgroup(s) further discussion should take place. * Articles crossposted to groups not related to Turkey or the current subject (such as crossposts to alt.sex, or misc.test) * Ads must be clearly labeled as "[AD]" or "[REKLAM]" in the beginning of the subject line, must be related to Turkey in some way and cannot be posted more than once every 2 months. All articles that are related to Turkey or Turks will be welcome. No article will be rejected based on content or subject unless they fall into one of the categories above. soc.culture.turkish.moderated is bound by rules that regulate usenet articles and soc.culture.* hierarchy. The moderators will make their best effort to make sure that these policies are followed but try to maintain a free flow of information otherwise. Moderation Policy: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ The SCTM moderators will use robomoderation software like the STUMP program developed by Igor Chudov . For more information on STUMP, see . In addition to RoboModeration there will be team of human moderators. The RoboModerator first will screen every article submitted to soc.culture.turkish.moderated. RoboModerator will take one of three courses of action: reject the submission automatically, post the submission automatically, or forward the submission to the human moderation panel for review. RoboModerator will always send the Charter and other relevant information about soc.culture.turkish.moderated to first time posters. RoboModerator will reject the article if * the article is a duplicate or "substantively equal" to a previous article according to the current spam cancel guidelines * the article containes less than 1/3 new material or less than 3 lines of original text. * the article is crossposted to more than 5 newsgroups or the crossposted article does not have a "Followup-To:" header. All crossposted articles must have "Followup-To:" header containing 'poster' or a maximum of 3 newsgroups indicating where discussion should be directed. * the article is a binary or multipart posting (except PGP signatures and small binaries related to authentication) RoboModerator will post the article if * the article is from an established poster to soc.culture.turkish.moderated and does not contain any keywords such as "Make Money Fast", "Adult Pictures", "stupid asshole". If the article does contain any of these keywords, the article will be forwarded to the moderators. The moderators can ask established posters to use PGP if abusers start using fake email addresses to appear as if they are on the established user list to get their articles approved automatically. The specified keywords will be decided by a majority of the moderation team. RoboModerator will forward the article to moderators if * the article is from an established poster but contains at least one of the specified keywords decided by the moderators * the article is not from an established poster and requires moderator approval before being distributed. An established poster is any reader who has a track record of posts that have been accepted to soc.culture.turkish.moderated. A poster shall be granted established poster status by a majority vote of moderators after he/she has had an article accepted to soc.culture.turkish.moderated. A poster will be taken off the established poster list after 3 rejected articles or by a majority vote of the moderators. If an article is distributed to soc.culture.turkish.moderated due to forgery (such as a fake Approved header, someone pretending to be a user on the established poster list) the article will be canceled by PGPMoose or the appropriate software. If an article is distributed due to moderator or RoboModerator error, an explanation will be posted to the newsgroups the article was distributed and steps will be taken to prevent similar errors in the future. Articles that are forwarded to the moderator will be accepted or rejected in accordance with the Charter for soc.culture.turkish.moderated. Rejected articles will always contain the reasons for rejection. A poster whose article is rejected can appeal the decision to the team of moderators. If majority of moderators agree or the moderators are evenly split the article will be posted. Moderators will make their best effort to create a suitable discussion forum on soc.culture.turkish.moderated. It is possible that a user will flood the newsgroup with articles to prevent discussion, submit variations of the same articles periodically or try to prevent discussion in ways unforeseen at this time. The moderators will use their discretion to reject articles intended to disrupt discussion. Users should follow the generally accepted rules for posting to Usenet. At the time of the creation of this group, Mike Moraes is maintaining a compilation of these rules available at news.announce.newusers under the subject: Rules for posting to Usenet (this document can also be currently found on the web at: ) The reason that we have a moderated group is to keep this group focused and to filter out the stuff that drive most people out of other groups. Since moderation is not in place to censure ideas, or limit debate every effort will be made to automate the moderation process, thus keeping the flow of ideas continuous. Becoming a moderator: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Any user can appeal to the panel of moderators and request to be added to the moderation team. A new moderator will be added if there is 2/3 majority among moderators for his/her acceptance. Resigning from moderation team: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Although moderators are free to leave any time, it is expected that they will make a good faith effort to find a candidate before they leave. Any candidate for a moderator needs 2/3 majority of the moderators to be accepted. A moderator cannot assign his/her position over to someone else. Complaints against Moderators: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ If a user feels that the RoboModerator or one or several members of the moderation team display erroneous or inappropriate behavior with regard to their responsibilities as a moderator for soc.culture.turkish.moderated, he/she can bring a complaint to the moderation panel. The moderation panel will review the complaint and take appropriate action. These actions may include modification of the RoboModerator setup or even dismissing a rogue moderator by a 2/3 majority vote of the moderators. Accountability of Moderators: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ If a moderator does not attend to his/her moderation duties for 30 consecutive days, he/she will be assumed to have left the moderation team. The panel of human moderators shall maintain a log of its activities. This log shall be made publicly available once every two months, thus making the moderators accountable to the readership. The specific keywords that force the RoboModerator to send an article to the human moderators will also be made publicly available at this time. END CHARTER. MODERATOR INFO: soc.culture.turkish.moderated Moderator: Zafer Bozkus Moderator: Hasan Baha CAYIR Moderator: Yusuf Pisan Moderator: Uzman Moderator: Huseyin Vural Administrative contact address: sctm-moderators@bigfoot.com Submission Address: sctm@bigfoot.com END MODERATOR INFO. PROCEDURE: This is a request for discussion, not a call for votes. In this phase of the process, any potential problems with the proposed newsgroup should be raised and resolved. The discussion period will continue for a minimum of 21 days (starting from when the RFD for this proposal is posted to news.announce.newgroups), after which a Call For Votes (CFV) may be posted by a neutral vote taker if the discussion warrants it. Please do not attempt to vote until this happens. All discussion of this proposal should be posted to news.groups. This RFD attempts to comply fully with the Usenet newsgroup creation guidelines outlined in "How to Create a New Usenet Newsgroup" and "How to Format and Submit a New Group Proposal". Please refer to these documents (available in news.announce.newgroups) if you have any questions about the process. END PROCEDURE. DISTRIBUTION: This RFD is being posted to the following newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups news.groups soc.culture.turkish soc.culture.greek soc.culture.kurdish soc.culture.iranian soc.culture.arabic soc.culture.pakistan talk.politics.mideast and to the following mailing lists TRKNWS-L Turkish news mailing list Send email to to subscribe ANADOLU To subscribe email to "sub ANADOLU e-mail Name Lastname" The official RFD as it appears on news.announce.newsgroups can be found from: Additional information concerning the creation of this newsgroup is available at: All reasonable effort has been made to make this document accessible to all parties that would be interested in the creation of soc.culture.turkish.moderated. Proponent: Yusuf Pisan From neilc@stanford.edu Wed Nov 5 00:00:07 1997 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: Neil Crellin Reply-To: voting@uvv.stanford.edu Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,soc.culture.arabic,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.kurdish,soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast Subject: CFV: soc.culture.turkish.moderated moderated Followup-To: poster Message-ID: <878716156.15564@isc.org> References: <876361513.25904@isc.org> <876780302.12742@isc.org> <877374687.4792@isc.org> Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org Expires: 27 Nov 1997 00:00:00 GMT Archive-Name: soc.culture.turkish.moderated Date: Wed, 05 Nov 1997 07:49:17 GMT Lines: 215 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:920 FIRST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) moderated group soc.culture.turkish.moderated This CFV is to be distributed only by the votetaker. It is not to be posted to newsgroups, or mailed to mailing lists or individuals, except by the votetaker. Ballots or CFVs provided by anyone else will be invalid. Newsgroups line: soc.culture.turkish.moderated Issues related to Turks/Turkey. (Moderated) Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 26 Nov 1997. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent. Proponent: Yusuf Pisan Votetaker: Neil Crellin RATIONALE: soc.culture.turkish.moderated Currently, there is a specific newsgroup on the Internet soc.culture.turkish (SCT) which is the only discussion group for issues relating to Turkey. While SCT has enjoyed a large group of participants, the quality of articles has changed in the last couple of years: * Large amount of crossposting to other soc.culture.* newsgroups. Unfortunately, the cross-posting tends to create inter-cultural conflict rather than inter-cultural understanding. This is disruptive not only to soc.culture.turkish but to the other groups (approximately 25% of articles are crossposted to more than 3 newsgroups). * An increased hostility within SCT and members of other groups which has created an increase in name calling and use of disposable accounts to spread hatred. * Approximately 20% of articles have less than 1/3 original text as a result of increased hostility. * Almost all users who have posted to SCT have had public insults against them which has resulted in a lot of readers to stay quiet or leave. * The heavy traffic on SCT combined with people swearing at each other makes it difficult to find the original articles. * Many readers have chosen to leave SCT due to increased hostility and lack of relevant articles about Turkey and Turks. soc.culture.turkish.moderated will once again offer a civilized place of discussion and attract past users as well as new users. The name chosen for this group is soc.culture.turkish.moderated, which is reflects its proposed content and its origins. This newsgroup is not intended to replace soc.culture.turkish. soc.culture.turkish will remain as an unmoderated forum. Instead, soc.culture.turkish.moderated will offer an alternative, less hostile area for discussion. I and the subscribers feel that a moderated newsgroup is necessary to keep the peace and ensure that articles make at least a good faith attempt to obey the charter rules. CHARTER: soc.culture.turkish.moderated This group would encourage posting of material relating to Turks and Turkey (Turkiye). All articles which in some way relates to Turkey or Turks will be welcome in this group. Legitimate topics include but are not limited to: Turkish language, history, politics, universities, cultural centers, announcement of related web pages and mailing lists, places to visit in Turkey, current and past leaders of Turkey as well as problems and concerns of Turks living inside or outside of Turkey. Articles will be rejected if they fall into any of the categories below: * Articles that are not related in any way to Turkey or Turks. * Chain letters, pyramid schemes, mass non-Turkey related advertisement, "Adult" type material, binary or multipart postings (PGP signatures and small binaries related to authentication are OK) * Articles including insults, swear words or explicit threats to individuals or groups * Duplicate postings or postings that qualify as "substantively equal" according to the current spam cancel guidelines * Articles with less than 1/3 new material or less than 3 lines of original text. * Articles crossposted to more than 5 newsgroups. * Crossposted articles that do not have a "Followup-To:" header. The Followup-To header must be present for all crossposted articles and must contain "poster" or a maximum of 3 newsgroups indicating which newsgroup(s) further discussion should take place. * Articles crossposted to groups not related to Turkey or the current subject (such as crossposts to alt.sex, or misc.test) * Ads must be clearly labeled as "[AD]" or "[REKLAM]" in the beginning of the subject line, must be related to Turkey in some way and cannot be posted more than once every 2 months. All articles that are related to Turkey or Turks will be welcome. No article will be rejected based on content or subject unless they fall into one of the categories above. soc.culture.turkish.moderated is bound by rules that regulate usenet articles and soc.culture.* hierarchy. The moderators will make their best effort to make sure that these policies are followed but try to maintain a free flow of information otherwise. SCTM will be moderated using a combination of a RoboModerator and a team of human moderators. New moderators can be added and existing moderators dismissed by a 2/3 majority of the moderation team. For a detailed explanation about the moderation process please refer to the RFD which can be found at or . END CHARTER. MODERATOR INFO: soc.culture.turkish.moderated Moderator: Zafer Bozkus Moderator: Hasan Baha CAYIR Moderator: Yusuf Pisan Moderator: Uzman Moderator: Huseyin Vural Administrative contact address: sctm-moderators@bigfoot.com Article submission address: sctm@bigfoot.com END MODERATOR INFO. IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES: READ THIS BEFORE VOTING Standard Guidelines for voting apply. One vote per person, one account per voter. Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker. Anonymous, forwarded or proxy votes are not valid. Votes mailed by WWW/HTML/CGI forms are considered to be anonymous votes. Vote counting is automated. Failure to follow these directions may mean that your vote does not get counted. If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three days contact the votetaker about the problem. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly. Duplicate votes are resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote. Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results post. The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of persons who would read a proposed newsgroup. Soliciting votes from disinterested parties defeats this purpose. Please do not distribute this CFV. If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted to news.announce.newgroups. Distributing pre-marked or otherwise edited copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud. When in doubt, ask the votetaker. HOW TO VOTE: Extract the ballot from the CFV by deleting everything before and after the "BEGINNING OF BALLOT" and "END OF BALLOT" lines. Don't worry about the spacing of the columns or any quote characters (">") that your reply inserts. Please, DO NOT send the entire CFV back to me! Fill in the ballot as shown below. Please provide your REAL NAME and indicate your desired vote in the appropriate locations inside the ballot. When finished, MAIL the ballot to: < voting@uvv.stanford.edu > Just "replying" to this message should work, but check the "To:" line. Examples of how to properly indicate your vote: [ YES ] example.yes.vote [ NO ] example.no.vote [ ABSTAIN ] example.abstention [ CANCEL ] example.cancellation DO NOT modify, alter or delete any information in this ballot! If you do, the voting software will probably reject your ballot. If these instructions are unclear, please consult the Introduction to Usenet Voting or the Usenet Voting FAQ at http://www.stanford.edu/~neilc/uvv. ======== BEGINNING OF BALLOT: Delete everything before this line ======= .----------------------------------------------------------------------- | 1ST CALL FOR VOTES: soc.culture.turkish.moderated | Official Usenet Voting Ballot (Do not remove this line!) |----------------------------------------------------------------------- | Please provide your real name, or your vote may be rejected. Place | ONLY your name (ie. do NOT include your e-mail address or any other | information; ONLY your name) after the colon on the following line: Voter name: | Insert YES, NO, ABSTAIN, or CANCEL inside the brackets for each | newsgroup listed below (do not delete the newsgroup name): Your Vote Newsgroup --------- ----------------------------------------------------------- [ ] soc.culture.turkish.moderated (moderated) ======== END OF BALLOT: Delete everything after this line ============== This CFV was created with uvpq 1.0 (Aug 14 1997). PQ datestamp: 970324 -- Voting address: voting@uvv.stanford.edu From neilc@stanford.edu Sat Nov 15 12:30:04 1997 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: Neil Crellin Reply-To: voting@uvv.stanford.edu Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,soc.culture.arabic,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.kurdish,soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast Subject: 2nd CFV: soc.culture.turkish.moderated moderated Followup-To: poster Message-ID: <879625755.6500@isc.org> References: <876361513.25904@isc.org> <876780302.12742@isc.org> <877374687.4792@isc.org> <878716156.15564@isc.org> Supersedes: <878716156.15564@isc.org> Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org Expires: 27 Nov 1997 00:00:00 GMT Archive-Name: soc.culture.turkish.moderated Date: Sat, 15 Nov 1997 20:29:15 GMT Lines: 238 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:952 LAST CALL FOR VOTES (of 2) moderated group soc.culture.turkish.moderated This CFV is to be distributed only by the votetaker. It is not to be posted to newsgroups, or mailed to mailing lists or individuals, except by the votetaker. Ballots or CFVs provided by anyone else will be invalid. Newsgroups line: soc.culture.turkish.moderated Issues related to Turks/Turkey. (Moderated) Votes must be received by 23:59:59 UTC, 26 Nov 1997. This vote is being conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent. Proponent: Yusuf Pisan Votetaker: Neil Crellin RATIONALE: soc.culture.turkish.moderated Currently, there is a specific newsgroup on the Internet soc.culture.turkish (SCT) which is the only discussion group for issues relating to Turkey. While SCT has enjoyed a large group of participants, the quality of articles has changed in the last couple of years: * Large amount of crossposting to other soc.culture.* newsgroups. Unfortunately, the cross-posting tends to create inter-cultural conflict rather than inter-cultural understanding. This is disruptive not only to soc.culture.turkish but to the other groups (approximately 25% of articles are crossposted to more than 3 newsgroups). * An increased hostility within SCT and members of other groups which has created an increase in name calling and use of disposable accounts to spread hatred. * Approximately 20% of articles have less than 1/3 original text as a result of increased hostility. * Almost all users who have posted to SCT have had public insults against them which has resulted in a lot of readers to stay quiet or leave. * The heavy traffic on SCT combined with people swearing at each other makes it difficult to find the original articles. * Many readers have chosen to leave SCT due to increased hostility and lack of relevant articles about Turkey and Turks. soc.culture.turkish.moderated will once again offer a civilized place of discussion and attract past users as well as new users. The name chosen for this group is soc.culture.turkish.moderated, which is reflects its proposed content and its origins. This newsgroup is not intended to replace soc.culture.turkish. soc.culture.turkish will remain as an unmoderated forum. Instead, soc.culture.turkish.moderated will offer an alternative, less hostile area for discussion. I and the subscribers feel that a moderated newsgroup is necessary to keep the peace and ensure that articles make at least a good faith attempt to obey the charter rules. CHARTER: soc.culture.turkish.moderated This group would encourage posting of material relating to Turks and Turkey (Turkiye). All articles which in some way relates to Turkey or Turks will be welcome in this group. Legitimate topics include but are not limited to: Turkish language, history, politics, universities, cultural centers, announcement of related web pages and mailing lists, places to visit in Turkey, current and past leaders of Turkey as well as problems and concerns of Turks living inside or outside of Turkey. Articles will be rejected if they fall into any of the categories below: * Articles that are not related in any way to Turkey or Turks. * Chain letters, pyramid schemes, mass non-Turkey related advertisement, "Adult" type material, binary or multipart postings (PGP signatures and small binaries related to authentication are OK) * Articles including insults, swear words or explicit threats to individuals or groups * Duplicate postings or postings that qualify as "substantively equal" according to the current spam cancel guidelines * Articles with less than 1/3 new material or less than 3 lines of original text. * Articles crossposted to more than 5 newsgroups. * Crossposted articles that do not have a "Followup-To:" header. The Followup-To header must be present for all crossposted articles and must contain "poster" or a maximum of 3 newsgroups indicating which newsgroup(s) further discussion should take place. * Articles crossposted to groups not related to Turkey or the current subject (such as crossposts to alt.sex, or misc.test) * Ads must be clearly labeled as "[AD]" or "[REKLAM]" in the beginning of the subject line, must be related to Turkey in some way and cannot be posted more than once every 2 months. All articles that are related to Turkey or Turks will be welcome. No article will be rejected based on content or subject unless they fall into one of the categories above. soc.culture.turkish.moderated is bound by rules that regulate usenet articles and soc.culture.* hierarchy. The moderators will make their best effort to make sure that these policies are followed but try to maintain a free flow of information otherwise. SCTM will be moderated using a combination of a RoboModerator and a team of human moderators. New moderators can be added and existing moderators dismissed by a 2/3 majority of the moderation team. For a detailed explanation about the moderation process please refer to the RFD which can be found at or . END CHARTER. MODERATOR INFO: soc.culture.turkish.moderated Moderator: Zafer Bozkus Moderator: Hasan Baha CAYIR Moderator: Yusuf Pisan Moderator: Uzman Moderator: Huseyin Vural Administrative contact address: sctm-moderators@bigfoot.com Article submission address: sctm@bigfoot.com END MODERATOR INFO. IMPORTANT VOTING PROCEDURE NOTES: READ THIS BEFORE VOTING Standard Guidelines for voting apply. One vote per person, one account per voter. Votes must be mailed directly from the voter to the votetaker. Anonymous, forwarded or proxy votes are not valid. Votes mailed by WWW/HTML/CGI forms are considered to be anonymous votes. Vote counting is automated. Failure to follow these directions may mean that your vote does not get counted. If you do not receive an acknowledgment of your vote within three days contact the votetaker about the problem. It's your responsibility to make sure your vote is registered correctly. Duplicate votes are resolved in favor of the most recent valid vote. Addresses and votes of all voters will be published in the final voting results post. The purpose of a Usenet vote is to determine the genuine interest of persons who would read a proposed newsgroup. Soliciting votes from disinterested parties defeats this purpose. Please do not distribute this CFV. If you must, direct people to the official CFV as posted to news.announce.newgroups. Distributing pre-marked or otherwise edited copies of this CFV is generally considered to be vote fraud. When in doubt, ask the votetaker. HOW TO VOTE: Extract the ballot from the CFV by deleting everything before and after the "BEGINNING OF BALLOT" and "END OF BALLOT" lines. 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If these instructions are unclear, please consult the Introduction to Usenet Voting or the Usenet Voting FAQ at http://www.stanford.edu/~neilc/uvv. ======== BEGINNING OF BALLOT: Delete everything before this line ======= .----------------------------------------------------------------------- | 2ND CALL FOR VOTES: soc.culture.turkish.moderated | Official Usenet Voting Ballot (Do not remove this line!) |----------------------------------------------------------------------- | Please provide your real name, or your vote may be rejected. Place | ONLY your name (ie. do NOT include your e-mail address or any other | information; ONLY your name) after the colon on the following line: Voter name: | Insert YES, NO, ABSTAIN, or CANCEL inside the brackets for each | newsgroup listed below (do not delete the newsgroup name): Your Vote Newsgroup --------- ----------------------------------------------------------- [ ] soc.culture.turkish.moderated (moderated) ======== END OF BALLOT: Delete everything after this line ============== DISTRIBUTION: Pointers directing readers to this CFV will be posted in these groups: rec.travel.europe rec.travel.asia soc.religion.islam soc.culture.pakistan.moderated soc.culture.bosna-herzgvna and in addition, to these mailing lists: ANADOLU mailing list at MSU.EDU Haber-Obek mailing list at Bilkent University Uni-ALL mailing list at Bilkent University Linux mailing list at Bilkent University Inet-TR mailing list at METU TRKNWS-L Turkish mailing list Northwestern Turkish Student Association soc.culture.turkish.moderated Acknowledgement Bounce List - No need to revote ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- lcs@NOSPAMzk3.dec.com Larry Smith This CFV was created with uvpq 1.0 (Aug 14 1997). PQ datestamp: 970324 -- Voting address: voting@uvv.stanford.edu From neilc@stanford.edu Tue Dec 9 13:31:44 1997 Path: news.isc.org!bounce-back From: Neil Crellin Newsgroups: news.announce.newgroups,news.groups,soc.culture.arabic,soc.culture.greek,soc.culture.iranian,soc.culture.kurdish,soc.culture.pakistan,soc.culture.turkish,talk.politics.mideast Subject: RESULT: soc.culture.turkish.moderated passes 274:92 Followup-To: news.groups Message-ID: <881702104.8909@isc.org> References: <876361513.25904@isc.org> <876780302.12742@isc.org> <877374687.4792@isc.org> <878716156.15564@isc.org> <879625755.6500@isc.org> Supersedes: <879625755.6500@isc.org> Organization: Usenet Volunteer Votetakers Approved: newgroups-request@isc.org Archive-Name: soc.culture.turkish.moderated Date: Tue, 09 Dec 1997 21:15:05 GMT Lines: 549 Xref: news.isc.org news.announce.newgroups:1010 RESULT moderated group soc.culture.turkish.moderated passes 274:92 There were 274 YES votes and 92 NO votes, for a total of 366 valid votes. There were 6 abstentions and 6 invalid ballots. For a group to pass, YES votes must be at least 2/3 of all valid (YES and NO) votes. There must also be at least 100 more YES votes than NO votes. A five day discussion period follows this announcement. If no serious allegations of voting irregularities are raised, the moderator of news.announce.newgroups will create the group shortly thereafter. Newsgroups line: soc.culture.turkish.moderated Issues related to Turks/Turkey. (Moderated) The voting period closed at 23:59:59 UTC, 26 Nov 1997. This vote was conducted by a neutral third party. Questions about the proposed group should be directed to the proponent. Proponent: Yusuf Pisan Votetaker: Neil Crellin RATIONALE: soc.culture.turkish.moderated Currently, there is a specific newsgroup on the Internet soc.culture.turkish (SCT) which is the only discussion group for issues relating to Turkey. While SCT has enjoyed a large group of participants, the quality of articles has changed in the last couple of years: * Large amount of crossposting to other soc.culture.* newsgroups. Unfortunately, the cross-posting tends to create inter-cultural conflict rather than inter-cultural understanding. This is disruptive not only to soc.culture.turkish but to the other groups (approximately 25% of articles are crossposted to more than 3 newsgroups). * An increased hostility within SCT and members of other groups which has created an increase in name calling and use of disposable accounts to spread hatred. * Approximately 20% of articles have less than 1/3 original text as a result of increased hostility. * Almost all users who have posted to SCT have had public insults against them which has resulted in a lot of readers to stay quiet or leave. * The heavy traffic on SCT combined with people swearing at each other makes it difficult to find the original articles. * Many readers have chosen to leave SCT due to increased hostility and lack of relevant articles about Turkey and Turks. soc.culture.turkish.moderated will once again offer a civilized place of discussion and attract past users as well as new users. The name chosen for this group is soc.culture.turkish.moderated, which is reflects its proposed content and its origins. This newsgroup is not intended to replace soc.culture.turkish. soc.culture.turkish will remain as an unmoderated forum. Instead, soc.culture.turkish.moderated will offer an alternative, less hostile area for discussion. I and the subscribers feel that a moderated newsgroup is necessary to keep the peace and ensure that articles make at least a good faith attempt to obey the charter rules. CHARTER: soc.culture.turkish.moderated This group would encourage posting of material relating to Turks and Turkey (Turkiye). All articles which in some way relates to Turkey or Turks will be welcome in this group. Legitimate topics include but are not limited to: Turkish language, history, politics, universities, cultural centers, announcement of related web pages and mailing lists, places to visit in Turkey, current and past leaders of Turkey as well as problems and concerns of Turks living inside or outside of Turkey. Articles will be rejected if they fall into any of the categories below: * Articles that are not related in any way to Turkey or Turks. * Chain letters, pyramid schemes, mass non-Turkey related advertisement, "Adult" type material, binary or multipart postings (PGP signatures and small binaries related to authentication are OK) * Articles including insults, swear words or explicit threats to individuals or groups * Duplicate postings or postings that qualify as "substantively equal" according to the current spam cancel guidelines * Articles with less than 1/3 new material or less than 3 lines of original text. * Articles crossposted to more than 5 newsgroups. * Crossposted articles that do not have a "Followup-To:" header. The Followup-To header must be present for all crossposted articles and must contain "poster" or a maximum of 3 newsgroups indicating which newsgroup(s) further discussion should take place. * Articles crossposted to groups not related to Turkey or the current subject (such as crossposts to alt.sex, or misc.test) * Ads must be clearly labeled as "[AD]" or "[REKLAM]" in the beginning of the subject line, must be related to Turkey in some way and cannot be posted more than once every 2 months. All articles that are related to Turkey or Turks will be welcome. No article will be rejected based on content or subject unless they fall into one of the categories above. soc.culture.turkish.moderated is bound by rules that regulate usenet articles and soc.culture.* hierarchy. The moderators will make their best effort to make sure that these policies are followed but try to maintain a free flow of information otherwise. SCTM will be moderated using a combination of a RoboModerator and a team of human moderators. New moderators can be added and existing moderators dismissed by a 2/3 majority of the moderation team. For a detailed explanation about the moderation process please refer to the RFD which can be found at or . END CHARTER. MODERATOR INFO: soc.culture.turkish.moderated Moderator: Zafer Bozkus Moderator: Hasan Baha CAYIR Moderator: Yusuf Pisan Moderator: Uzman Moderator: Huseyin Vural Administrative contact address: sctm-moderators@bigfoot.com Article submission address: sctm@bigfoot.com END MODERATOR INFO. soc.culture.turkish.moderated Final Voter list Voted YES ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ Adem.Ugur@uibk.ac.at Adem Ugur Demir.Adnan.A@bhp.com.au Adnan Demir cic_library@netinfo.com.au John Wood meskinaz@soh.nsw.gov.au Meir Eskinazi Mehman.Tatliyev@savechildren.org.az Mehman Tatliyev pin00033.nospam@ping.be Stefane Dowet parlatany@aecl.ca Yuksel Parlatan ai132@chebucto.ns.ca Joanne Cook paxil@inorth.on.ca Trevor Tymchuk maksu@gpu.srv.ualberta.ca Murat AKSU leylek@cc.UManitoba.CA Ahmet Leylek jmcgarry@uoguelph.ca James McGarry ssbalcis@lig.di.epfl.ch Selim Balcisoy hbc@turk.ch Hasan Baha CAYIR erdaly@public.cc.jl.cn Erdal Yazicioglu ichudov@algebra.com Igor Chudov andy@andysaudio.com Andrew C. Ohnstad tamer@antares-iti.com Tamer Avcilar ersoy@antisocial.com ersoy Ikoniclast@aol.com Monica Gallagher JOTEZDUYAR@aol.com DR. HASAN T. TEZDUYAR ZeynoKiz@aol.com Zeynep Leffler Eren_Kotan@apple.com Eren Kotan okandama@artisoft.com Ozan Kandamar sdemir@bechtel.com Siddika Demir khan@best.com Sharaaz Khan jdg@but-i-dont-like-spam.boxmail.com John David Galt r.l.s@btinternet.com Recep L Sahin sens@ccia.com SEAN SEN 102572.1375@compuserve.com Anastasia Mensah 75403.2004@compuserve.com Jayhun Mollazade masters@mail.deltanet.com Nathan C. Masters aydin@depsa.com Aydin Yesildirek mergener@dmrtrecom.com Metin Ergener oksay@erols.com Nuray Oksay Iskender.Agi@exar.com Iskender Agi izib@geocities.com   Izi Behar

umit.kumcuoglu@gs.com Umit Kumcuoglu nazli@home.com Nazli McDonnell daniel_rybowski@hotmail.com Daniel Rybowski maricarov@hotmail.com Mohamed Abdulla Maricar oezdil@hotmail.com Erkan Oezdil tevfikb@hotmail.com Tevfik B TUELIN_BEYAZ@HP-Germany-om5.om.hp.com Arzu Tulin Beyaz ozlemd@au1.ibm.com Ozlem Dayanikli AErgeneman@icfkaiser.com Ayca Ergeneman mac@libtech.com Mehmet Cirit Tetik.Selda@menlolog.com SELDA TETIK murat@mersina.com Murat Yashin captcem@msn.com Cem Askin olav@viking.mv.com Olav Nieuwejaar Gunhan_Kildiran@el.nec.com Gunhan Kildiran hhfarhi@ix.netcom.com Henri Farhi todma@ix.netcom.com Ruqayyah Mumina Abdul-Alim franck@dial.oleane.com Franck Brunel yigitus@openix.com Yigit Kavurmacioglu djones@panix.com David Jones tindall@panix.com Bruce Tindall inanli.h@pg.com Harun Inanli TDRT02A@prodigy.com Judith A. Sylte onur@promodel.com ONUR DULGEROGLU softekin@raex.com Alptekin Aydogan cafemre@rancomp.com Eray Aslan agunay@rocketmail.com Burak Gunay ovutmen@islamabad.wireline.slb.com Nihat Ovutmen tayfun@slmsoft.com Tayfun Can cedmonds@superonline.com Colin Edmonds omercan@superonline.com Omer C Demirtas arielle@taronga.com Stephanie da Silva ozan@technologist.com Ozan Varol Turk@ti.com Michael Corbin levent@turknet.com Levent Aksoy oktay@ultranet.com Oktay Bender ak@smtpgwy.roadnet.ups.com ALP KAYABASI ataoguz@writeme.com Suha Ataoguz gunes@yagosys.com Gunes Aybay urgup@yahoo.com Faik Yanki M.MERLIN@TBX.berlinet.de Maurice Merlin FRALSOEQP@DLH.DE Frank Seidel mue@gsf.de Bernhard Muenzer tolgaeg@metronet.de Tolga Egilmez salihag@mppmu.mpg.de Denis Salihagic naddy@mips.rhein-neckar.de Christian Weisgerber hayati@berlin.snafu.de Hayati Boyacioglu taner@cadlab.tu-berlin.de H. Taner polzer@uran.informatik.uni-bonn.de A. Polzer puersuen@stud.uni-frankfurt.de YANKI PURSUN myth@diku.dk Martin Koch mcetin@acadia.bu.edu Mujdat Cetin rnomak@chem.bu.edu RANA NOMAK erol@cns.bu.edu Erol Sahin sadik@cs.bu.edu Sadik Tokgoz htverdi@bu.edu Huseyin Tanriverdi benhur@et.byu.edu Umit Ocak moh@galcit.caltech.edu Mohammad Reza Gharib Delen@Colorado.EDU Nuri Delen christa@spot.colorado.edu Amy Christensen greens@spot.colorado.edu Sally E. Green youngerg@spot.colorado.edu Greg Younger matt@astro.columbia.edu Orkan Mehmet Umurhan ms332@columbia.edu murat selamoglu sss31@columbia.edu Sadi Seferoglu hbbusb16@email.csun.edu Perihan Soylemez sbaran@seaccc.sccd.ctc.edu Sevgi Baran sg95sj8e@dunx1.ocs.drexel.edu Mehmet Hinis ei@acpub.duke.edu Evrim Icoz tosun@fiu.edu Sabri Tosunoglu hh299@cleveland.Freenet.Edu Jim Baranovich mkk6821@garnet.acns.fsu.edu Mesut Kovankaya uysal@ee.gannon.edu Arif Uysal gs01zan@panther.Gsu.EDU Zaur Nazarly pinar@bwh.harvard.edu Hale Pinar Zengingonul yiginiz@charlie.cns.iit.edu Nizamettin Yigit aonalan@indiana.edu Alp Onalan belturan@indiana.edu BURHAN ELTURAN ecakirog@indiana.edu Erdinc Cakiroglu gkilic@indiana.edu Gulsen Bagci Kilic kursat@indiana.edu Kursat Cagiltay rtabanli@coeds.eng.miami.edu R. Murat Tabanli kbuyukat@mail.coin.missouri.edu Kaya Buyukataman pheonix@MIT.EDU Bilal A. Bhutta lacinfig@egr.msu.edu Figen Lacin akbulut@math.msu.edu Selman Akbulut bulentb@math.msu.edu Bulent Buyukbozkirli celikcan@pilot.msu.edu CANAN CELIK irmakelm@pilot.msu.edu Elmas Irmak karaevli@pilot.msu.edu AYSE KARAEVLI salursem@pilot.msu.edu SEMA SALUR seckinel@pilot.msu.edu Elif SECKIN bennett@unity.ncsu.edu Seyma Bennett ergul@ccs.neu.edu Ayhan Ergul esozer@coe.neu.edu Ethem Mutlu Sozer cok134@nwu.edu Cagla Okten gordon@ils.nwu.edu Andrew S. Gordon meryl@spd-13.ils.nwu.edu Meryl McQueen y-pisan@nwu.edu Yusuf Pisan TOP@er6s1.eng.ohio-state.edu SERMIN TOP ucar_t@hcgl1.eng.ohio-state.edu Tamer Ucar hi753085@oak.cats.ohiou.edu Halil ISIK st638685@oak.cats.ohiou.edu Selahattin Turan cobanog@okstate.edu Cihan Cobanoglu ozadali.1@osu.edu Ferhan Ozadali akin@emp.pdx.edu Akin Uslu ecevik@phoenix.Princeton.EDU Emrah Cevik-Pamuk ucer@ee.rochester.edu K. Burak Ucer canyurt@rpi.edu Olcay Canyurt sibel@cs.rpi.edu Sibel Adali alatan@ipl.rpi.edu A. Aydin Alatan tonguc@av.rutgers.edu Tonguc Unluyurt oksay@eden.rutgers.edu Fatih Oksay ckulaksi@nbcs.rutgers.edu Cosar Kulaksiz ergeneru@nbcs.rutgers.edu Ufuk Ergener ibtanri@eniac.ac.siue.edu Menguc Tanriseven itanris@siue.edu Ibrahim Tanriseven aktuglu@seas.smu.edu Tevfik AKTUGLU bri@condor.sccs.swarthmore.edu Brian O'Connell gaber@condor.sccs.swarthmore.edu Gabriel Benjamin-Fernandez cisik@syr.edu Can Isik burchanb@cs.tamu.edu Osman Burchan Bayazit ergun@viz.tamu.edu Ergun Akleman paustin@astro.ocis.temple.edu Pam Austin rick@bcm.tmc.edu Richard Miller vildan@eecs.tufts.edu Vildan Tanriverdi kanuni@math1.math.uconn.edu Muge Kanuni kursad@pacific.ece.ucsb.edu Kursad Kiziloglu akansel@nersp.nerdc.ufl.edu Mehmet Akansel mamedov@cas.umass.edu Nazim A. Mamedov fuy1@gl.umbc.edu Francis Uy ek39@umail.umd.edu Erjan Kurbanov emre_ergungor@ccmail.bus.umich.edu Emre Ergungor pamir@cochrane.bus.umich.edu Can Pamir tayfun@engin.umich.edu Tayfun Ozdemir tur@engin.umich.edu Yahya Tur ulsoy@engin.umich.edu A. Galip Ulsoy lakyurek@mmg2.im.med.umich.edu M. Levent Akyurek acar@ee.umr.edu L. Acar cstone@math.unm.edu Chris Stone yavuz@gladstone.uoregon.edu Yavuz Erdun goktas@grip.cis.upenn.edu Faik Goktas durduran@sas.upenn.edu Turgut Durduran asen@almaak.usc.edu Alper Sen oner@paris.usc.edu Koray Oner baguirov@scf-fs.usc.edu Adil Baguirov ozyurt@eng.usf.edu Ibrahim Burak Ozyurt ozdemir@ece.utexas.edu Caner Ozdemir aksoy@george.ee.washington.edu Selim Aksoy rufinus@mbe.ece.wisc.edu J Rufinus eam@serv01.rpi.ses.alcatel.es Erinc Ali Mentes lm21hb8@serv09.rpi.ses.alcatel.es Ulku Ozakin jpc@drum.msfc.nasa.gov J. Porter Clark kutlug@it-tokyo.co.jp Murat Gokhan KUTLUG sbogut@acadiacom.net Sukru Bogut chris@aimnet.net Christopher Robin Zimmerman ercument@ata.net Ercument Cetiner aseden@worldnet.att.net Ali Munif SEDEN kryopak@worldnet.att.net Charlie Bartholomew R.Ongun@worldnet.att.net REFIK ONGUN cran@bellsouth.net Henry lasch@buffnet.net Paul Lasch ilhami@earthlink.net Ilhami Topaloglu oguz@rift.foo.net Oguz Yetkin gloonie@ibm.net Glenn R. Williams haydenis@idt.net Denis Hayward jromai19@idt.net Dr. Jim Romaine ozkany@idt.net Ozkan Yavasal oguzhan@iserv.net Oguzhan ALICLI tonyb@null.net Tony Basoglu maxbuten@op.net Max Buten af137@torfree.net al aab fatih.altay@usa.net Fatih Altay dunya-hafta@usa.net Dogan Pursun gulnur@usa.net Gulnur Rud carlo.marchesi@usa.net Carlo Marchesi ozbay@wizard.net Ilbay Ozbay mehemmet.mihciokur@tip.nl Mehemmet Mihciokur Mete.Pamir@isp.uib.no Mete Pamir aboelaze@squ.edu.om Mokhtar Aboelaze arisian@eyrie.org Bruce Baugh hfung@lerami.lerctr.org Hank Fung bobc@rain.org Bob Christensen ozerk@corbina.ru Ozerk Alpay pegast@dol.ru